I've seen a lot of references to different types of so called designer dogs lately. My question is how do they produce a consistent looking dog? For example, the labradoodle. Can't each puppy have very different features from one another beings that you can't control what different features it picks up from each parent? I did see 2 puggles recently and they looked pretty much alike. Also the puggles I've seen on the web all have simular looks, very much resembling a pug. Why don't you see any that look more like the beagle part? It makes me wonder if undesirable looking puppies aren't culled. I certainly hope not. Lord I hope nobody ever tries to create something with my breed (dachshunds)!!!
I would think. especially since the breeding method is inconsistant. Like you have a peekapoo mom and a poodle dad. I don't know if that would make a differnce though. Anyway, it's not like most mix breeders do it for a specific look or purpose. It's usually an accident anyway. Although some strive to come up with a consistant look I'm sure.
reveka wrote:Anyway, it's not like most mix breeders do it for a specific look or purpose. It's usually an accident anyway.
**************************************** i disagree..most designer breeds are on purpose...most are from mills that have maltise, poodles, shitzu's and the rest of the desirable dogs..and my thinking is they get some with limited registration and make them mix makers..or they trade off...litter after litter..its so sad..or its the byb who have a poo and some one they meet has a pom..and they let them do it..im not an avocate..although i think they are adorable..all pups are to me..but..i think of the breeding annimals in bad conditions living day after day thats what makes it heart breaking
also..(i forgot the main point with the thread in the first place) they dont look consistant because of the mixing...i think the beagel looking puggles do get culled..and probably end up in shelters, labs or worse...i hope im wrong
Hmmhmm, you are right about the mills. I tend to forget about them, I hate to think of them you know?
Of course all dogs should be loved, no matter what they look like. But when you charge $1,800 for a dog, you're bringing it to a different level. But that's something for a person in the market for a mix to worry about I suppose. I guess if "designer breeders" want to make it legitimate and not looked down on, they would try to be consistant with looks. But that can be hard, and it brings up a whole other issue. I guess there are four kinds of senarios for the situation of a "designer dog". The horrible puppy mill that over breeds and overlooks flaws. The jerk breeder who is jumping on the band wagon and trying to make a buck. Someone who actually likes the mix of two certain dogs and trys to do the best they can. And those who can't keep their dog seperated. So who's the responsible one in this who is going to strive to come up with a certain look and standard for these dogs? But it's not as if any mix will become a legitamized breed. Which one would you choose? there's so many combinations people have.
"Designer Dogs" are becoming so popular, but bottom line is they are mixed breeds. What irritates me is the breeder who charges $1,000 and up for these mixes! How many people would walk into a pound and pay $1,000 for a mutt? None, if any...yet they pay it for a labradoodle, yorktese, morkie, or whatever. It's insane if you ask me. I happen to have a yorkie/maltese mix, BUT....she was an accident. Now, before I get bombarded with "there are no accidents..." I have to tell you...I've known this breeder for a long time and she has never had an accident litter in her life. It just happened and she regretted it. She had four puppies and only wanted the vet bills covered (c-section). She was not out to charge a pure bred price for what was a mutt. I'm not against people getting what they want (pure bred or deliberate mix), but why does the breeder have to make it next to impossible for a lot of people to get the dog they want by charging purebred prices for a mix? Some people can't afford to pay $800 and up for a maltese, but the breeders are making it impossible for them to even afford a mutt! I'm so glad I found Angel when I did - I couldn't afford her now!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/angeltomom/Angel/4.jpg
"Designer breeds" are simply mixed breeds with a fancy name attached. That's it! But people decided to capitalize off of natural hybridization and charge ridiculous amounts.
I guess I could say I have a "LabraPit" and a "RetrievaShep" just so it would sound cool, but the bottom line is these are mixed breeds, just like the so-called designer breeds.
The sad thing is, the trend will get old, and these pricey dogs will end up in the shelter right along with other mixed breeds. Why are people purposely creating more mixes/breeds when there are plenty of mutts who need homes already???
I wouldn't pay $1,000 for ANY dog - pure or mixed breed. Why pay so much when there are plenty of wonderful, cute, lovable free or very cheap dogs at the local shelter or rescue group? Why not adopt a dog and then give the rest of that $1,000 to charity or something. Paying out the you know what does not get you a better dog, it just puts you further in debt!
Hmmm....I guess people like "status" and to brag about what big spenders they are! lol
My husband always says why pay so much for a dog...it's a dog. You can get one from the pound for $100 or less and it's already fixed and has rabies shots. Some have microchips too and heartworm tested. I have noticed that pound puppies love you more. Maybe it's my imagination but I feel the appreciation.
Cinnaeve although basically I do agree with you...I do how ever think some dogs are worth a chunk of money...as a pet..probably no..but as a dog to show or for your breeding program...Ive paid good money for a Championed, OKA'd vet checked dog..well worth it..I would have to pay to get it done seperatly if not..so...many times you do get what you pay for..but..a designer mix..although im sure they are adorable..they are not what i would pay big bucks for..i am not trying to offend any one..like I said they are adorable and im sure they are wonderful pets..but..even a purebred..i would not pay top dollar for a pet...so..it isnt anything personal..
I don't know for sure how a lot of it works, but I know when you cross a lab with a golden they will have a lab coat first generation. Second generation they can have long or short. Also in first generation yellow is dominate.
They look like shar pei puppies when they are little.
Oh, I totally agree. Paying top dollar for show dogs is different than for pet dogs. My parents paid a good amount for their first Scottie, which they co-owned and were going to show. They decided that showing dogs isn't their thing. Their second Scottie didn't cost nearly as much, since they knew ahead of time that they weren't going to show him.