Hi everyone. Gosh i could use some ones help obout now. What are the steps to potty train a 11 week old puppy? We got Bentley when he was 7 weeks old and seemed to pick up going on the potty pad pretty quick and was doing a good job for as young as he was. Now it seems that all ive taught him is out the window and he is peeing where ever he wants. And almost always pooping where ever also. When i catch him in the act i tell him bad boy in a low and stern voice and he he looks at me and puts his head down and goes to his bed and stays there looking like he knows he done wrong. I will find a pee on the floor or poop and say Bentley bad boy and he will look at me and run off to his bed and say there. Again looking sad that he did it. I do praise him every time he does go on his potty pad and make a bid deal out of it and also have done the treats when he goes.We live in Michigan and its way to cold and snowy for the little guy to be potty trained out side hes a little dog .So im training him to go on the potty pads.What am i doing wrong? Im not crate training i feel bad for him being in the cage. He doesnt have run of the whole house all bedrooms are closed. Our house is a open floor plan so we see him where ever he is but still he isnt catching on. Is it because he is so young still and it will just take more time? This past week it jsut seems like were going backwards. Does anyone know what i can do differnt? I am sorry this is long but i really just need to find out what im doing wrong. I did buy a book on potty training but it seems to be what im doing. Thank you for your time and help..... Theresa
This is what you are soing wrong. First stop discpling the dog. Dogs do not get why you are yelling at them for potty in the house. They do not know it is wrong. and when you displine them they learn, potty in front of you is bad, not potty in the house. so just ignore messes clean them up and move on. next you have to set the dog up fpr success. you do not like the crate, but instead you are willing to displine? I much rather would crate, not poo or pee in the house, and the dog is not getting discplined. Displine can be very destructive to a dogs self esteem and your relationship. so where do we go, first you have to get over the idea of a crate being a cage. to you it is a cage, to the dog it is a den, a safe place of his own. but we have to teach that. so feed tyhe dog in the crate, dog sleeps in the crate, dog takes naps in the crate, dog never gets pushed in or pulled out of crate. dog is always treated for goin in crate. dog sometimes enjoys a bone or chew toy in the crate. now we have a den, not cage. all the while we are potty training. we are putting the dog in the crate, when are gone and when we cannot watch the dog inside, and while dog is doing the things listed above. now we take the dog the pee pads every time he comes out, imeediatly, that is in as instantly. we wait a few minutes, no pee or pooh, back to the crate. we try later. potty training is all about getting as many succesful potty times as we can. one or two messes in a row are not a problem. but a dog pee and pooing in the house reguarly is learning. you have to think everytime that dog comes out of the crate, it is going to learn something, the crate allows you to decide what.
Hello, thanks for your help. I never said i yelled at my pup i never have and dont! I tell him bad boy in a low stern voice as i was told in this book i was reading so he knows the differnce between my happy praise voice and my not happy voice. But again never have i disiplined my pup ever. And this is what i have been doing mostly is just letting him know WHEN i catch him in the act that it isnt good and put him on his pad but ignoring what i dont see and never yelling at him for any reason.I wouldnt want to scare the little thing and have him afraid of me. I have tried the crate he hated it, i felt bad and i just couldnt deal with it. I did buy a puppy play pen (a inside pen ) for him to go in when im not home but he can run and play. So when i am not at home he isnt running all over the house. So really this is something that will come with time? I just didnt know if there is a age when this works best or if he was to young still. And if i am going obout this the right way. I do give him treats as i stated and i do praise him all the time every time he goes on his pad. I will just keep on doing what i have been doing. He is picking up on it mostly and i have put the pads where i find him peeing latly . I do thank you for your advice. Theresa
You should NEVER discipline for accidents! Crate training is essential-It is not cruel at all. It's more cruel to not make it easy for your dog to learn. A crate makes it much easier to learn the proper place to potty because a dog will not, as a general rule soil where they sleep.
My pups are toy poodles too, I live in Norther Lower Michigan. My babies are now going outside with mom and dad to do their business. They are 10 weeks old.
Gunny's right, if you don't want to crate even confining him to a small area and use the pads.. If you catch him in the act somewhere else pick him up and place him on the pads. When I am home I would place him in this confined area about every 2 hours, or 5 to 20 minutes after eating or drinking. If he's anything like mine they start to wander off with the nose to the ground when its close to time. Once he is totally trained to the pads you can remove the little fenced in area, and just leave the pads in the designated place. Leave the gate open whe he is roaming and make a big deal when he does do it right..
Hi tapettyjohn, I am going through the same thing with my 12 week old puppy..arrgghhh. She is our second dog, our first just turned 1 a few days ago. Our first dog Maggie was a dream to housebreak. I think in the first 3 weeks we had her she had a total of 4 accidents on the floor. We got her when she was 8 weeks old and she picked up on what we wanted immediately. I couldn't figure out why all these people were complaining about housebreaking problems? We had trained her on pee pads and within 2 days of her being home she would run to the paper when she had to go! She easily trained to go outside within a few months and then only used her pee pads on rare occasions (maybe once a month) and not at all in the last 3 months. THIS puppy on the other hand is a housebreaking nightmare lol. We got her at 11 weeks. We decided to train her only outside. She is amazing when you give the "go pee" command. She immediately stops and pees (good dog). Unfortunately you need to take her outside every 15 minutes to avoid her peeing on the carpet in the meantime (and she actually will pee on command every 15 minutes). We took her to the vet yesterday because I can't believe this dog has to go sooooo often. Her urinalysis showed some white cells and a few crystals. She is now on antibiotics to rule out a urinary tract infection. I am praying for some improvement over the next few days! It is leaving us on edge all the time...if she's not sleeping...she's piddling somewhere. I have even seen her squat and pee WHILE she's eating....arrrghhh. If the antibiotics don't work they are going to do some other tests to see if they can come up with any other medical reason. If your problem continues it might not be a bad idea to try and get a urine sample into the vet to see if there is a medical reason for the back slide...you never know!
Ok theresa, Sorry, I did not mean to imply you being a nazi to your dog, As for Discplining the dog, talking in low stern voice, is Discpline. I have Potty trained many dogs, with and with out a crate. And my experince is that crate works. and no dog likes the crate at first. we have to teach that. But if you do not want to use crate. that is fine. But you have to understand that the dog is not being "bad". The dog just does not understand. as for pee pads, i am not a big fan. dog instintually want to not pee in the den (house for this purpose) so we have to teach them that the house is the den and not the bathroom. pee pads totally work against this. i know pwople that have success and know some that pee pads have basically made thier dog pee in the house (not on the pad) for the rest of thier lives.
Whew....Can't discipline a dog???? what planet are you from people??? Beating a dog is not discipline. Speaking in a firm low voice is and I beg to differ with most of you, she IS doing it right. The only thing I can fault her on is need for positive reinforcement.When Bently is peeing/pooping, he should be spoken to in the low firm voice and immediatly placed on the pad. It is best to try to get the pup to the pad in time, but phrase praise...Good pee pee on pad,etc when the duty is done in the proper place, is the Proper way to eventually train the dog. You know, about 30 years ago the education system decided to not "discipline" children, it was supposed to hurt their self esteem. Yikes look at kids today, having sex anytime with anyone, shooting the schools up, shooting each other up, no respect, no regards for anyone but themselves (yes there are alot of good kids out there, but they are in the sad minority) stealing, getting pregnant, drugs and alcohol, wrecking cars,Yep..let's throw discipline right out the window for dogs too and see what happens in 30 years.
You are doing the right thing by verbally correcting him but make sure you only do it when you catch him in the act. House breaking takes time and alot of patience. When I was in the process of housetraining my dog it felt like he would never understand but eventually he did. My grandmother recently got a chi puppy and she went through thr same thing. He understands to use the bathroom on the pee-pee pads and now she's working on him using the bathroom outside. We also live in Michigan and it does get cold but he cannot use the bathroom in the house because she has other dogs in the house and they will start peeing in the house too. Just be patient, your dog will catch on eventually!!!
Wow, this is a scarey thread. Discipline in the dictionary uses the word punishment. To most people punishment means harsh treatment. To me useing harsh treatments with a dog or children for that matter is for people that just don't know what else to do or are to lazy to do what really needs to be done. If a puppy during play time gets to rough with another puppy, we don't yell at it or smack it, it gets a time out, it gets removed from the fun and thats speaks volumes to a puppy.. Children that are punished(Yelling and physical punishments) have low self esteem, no doubt about it, and are more likely to act out. If parents took the time to encourage and praise their children for good behavior,less reactive to bad behavior, and set them up to succeed in life, children would be better individuals. What we have instead, are busy and irritated parents that don't want to deal with their kids and instead yell at them, or just push them away. I'm one of those kids that was constantly yelled at for everything. (and occasionally beaten)Let me tell you, thats all I remember from my childhood, when it comes to my parents, no happy memories there. In this case its purely a case of management and age. The puppy is still young and his movements are not controlled. The puppy has to be confined to house train, its the only way to avoid setting it up to fail. The puppy has no idea what your reasons are for him haveing to go on what or wear. When you verbally scold a dog/puppy for going to the bathroom say on the carpet, a few things happen, first he will act submissive to your actions, not because he went on the rug. If you continue to react to the puppy haveing accidents, he will simply wait till youre not around, cause it's safer to do so. So we have to mold his behaviors. The best way to mold a puppy is to fixate the puppy on going on a certain thing, like pads or paper, is to confine the puppy to a penned area, or gated room, paper the entire floor. When the puppy goes on a sheet, remove it and replace with a new sheet. After a week remove a slice (at one end)permenantly, and after each week continue to remove one slice. Soon you'll be left with one slice, and he should focus on that slice of paper. This puppy is not to young to start takeing outside, unless your purpose is to create an indoor dog.
schoolbus gal, I have 2 dogs of equal genetic quality at my house. same breed. I wish you could see the differnce in them one trained emplying discpline one trained with minimal discpline and force. the 6 mos old puppy is the latter. aand is more responsive. and better behaved. As for discpline, during potty training. it is counter productive. most of the time it just makes a dg pee or poop in another room or when you are not around. they associate your presence with potty. not potty in the inside is bad. I also would like to inform you that crime and teenage pregnecy is at a low. and remeber there were people shooting up places back in the day, lee harvey oswald come to mind.
I am from planet earth, and these training techniques i talk of are not something i read out of a book. they are the learnings of training dogs for many years.
and i do not denouce discpline. i do discpline my dogs for acting up. just knowing when my dogs are being defiant or doing wrong is the key, and being cleaning is something dogs want to do. we have to teach them where it is appropraite to potty, not tell them where it is not. that would be like me spanking my child at the age of 2 or 3 for peeing thier pants, befor i helped them to learn to go potty on the toilet.
So tapettyjohn is not disciplining because she used no harsh treatment. She just said no, bad dog, but instead of letting him go to his bed she should have picked him up and carried him outside and told him to "potty outside" which she should be saying that and good dog when he does go outside. When I was potty training my kids I did tell them, when you feel the need to go you need to go on the toilet, don't wait until you can't hold it anymore and go in your pants. Nobody is abusing anybody here, there is a happy middle of teaching no you don't do that and yes this is what you need to do. Ya'll act like she beat the dog with a club!
***Edited By: Ln on 2/28/2006 2:05:05 PM*** Reason: sdf
When he goes doodoo outside use tons of praise and goodies! Thats all I had to do with Diesel. And if you CATCH HIM going indoors make a loud noise to startle him and rum him outside, then when he finishes outside act like you just won a million buckaroos.
I have read everyone thread here and would like to say something.If your'e the type of person who dont feel like getting up taking your dog out, putting him on a schedule letting him know that this is what you espect from him every day your dog will never train properly dont bash me b/c I'm talking about myself i dont have a problem admitting when ''I'M WRONG'' Yes i'm paying for it right now but things had gotten so much better with teacup you be surprise i've have learn so much from this forum and it has made me a better pet owner you see at first i would let teacup do whatever he wanted to i thought he was so cute and tiny didnt want to holler at him or make him a nervous little dog and booomm! it started teacup took over the house! hehehe... ..had to end up taking him to training school and now he's doing great.the little stinker we get up 5:00am everymorning and go potty yeah i still be half sleep hehe but i dont have to worry about stepping in his peepee.then when i get home it goes to no end -the outside .I'mnot saying any of you was like me just admitting where i went wrong.
Sue I think you need to meet the children of a few friends of mine (and pets as well), who's parents try to reason with them through the bad decisions they make instead of using punishment/discipline. Those kids are bratty holy terrors who utterly control their parents lives, because they have no discipline. And their dogs are such obnoxious twerps I wouldnt wish them on an enemy.
THere's a happy medium as far as discipline goes, for both pets and children. The thing is that it will differ from one individual to another. Personally as a child I was very hard-headed and stubborn. I was spanked, because spanking worked, yelling was useless for me. My sister however (and my daughter for that matter) were far far more sensitive, and simple verbal correction is more than enough.
Now all that said..
The key to potty training is consistency and catching the dog in the act. I have to say that personally I hate potty training pads, because you are teaching the dog that it IS ok to go in the house. I have yet to meet a dog that goes on the potty pad every time, all of them will 'slip up' and go in other places in the house. When you teach a dog to potty outside and only outside, it's far easier simply because you teach the dog that going anywhere in the house is unacceptable. So you're not training the dog twice, once to go on the pads, and again to go outside.. many dogs find this confusing.
YOu say what you do when the dog does wrong, what do you do when the dog goes where you want it to go? Also, if the dog is able to get away from you and go potty where you can't catch him in the act, he has too much freedom. Keep him on a leash so you know exactly hwere he is in the house at all times. When he starts to go in the wrong place, pick him up immediately (even if hes still going) and take him outside. Keep him outside until he goes, then give tons and tons of praise and/or a treat.
If you find a wet spot (or a pile) and you have not caught your dog doing it, don't yell at your dog. Its not his fault you weren't htere to know when he needed to go. Clean it up without making any fuss at all and whap yourself on the head with the newspaper and vow to keep a closer eye next time.
Also, if your pup is only 11 weeks old, he is still very very much still a baby and you should expect setbacks. Some dogs aren't fully housetrained until they're 5 or 6 months old.