Ex bred his rottie, his fiance is going to school for vet tech next month..one would assume they were going to understand the breeding process and such.
Cliffnotes...left my kids alone, ages 11 and 8 to go to a funeral with the dog who was due any day.
She started bleeding, went under the computer desk and son saw the pup pop out.
She only had one.
Thing is, they had no whelping box, no monitoring, nuthin!
so, I had my kids this week and I asked em how the pup was...
He is fine, crawling all over....apparently, they still live under the computer desk...with no containment place for mom and pup.
I asked if they were afraid they would lose it in the house...and son said that he cries all the time, so they couldnt lose him...I cant fault son on any of this....
Do you think this will be bad for the dog in the long run? I mean, it has no comfort area....it is crawling all over the house....and if mom goes outside, it could squirm anywhere, get stepped on in the middle of the night, etc etc.....
UGH!!!! Glad I divorced this jerk!!
I reiterated to my kids when we breed, our operations will be a stark contrast to what they do!!
Trama I feel ya on this one. I think you are in your right to ask this about this animal. Because your kids are over there. You have no idea if this an over protective doggie mom.
As for TeaCup I think you are in the wrong for telling Trama off. She is concerned for what her kids are around. She has a right to know what is going on around her kids whether at her or house or somewhere else.
Im a bit shocked. First i must say my step dad who had no respect for animals was even kind enouh to give his fems a nice place to give birth. Second so what if she asks her kids about there dad. Its alot better then telling them she does not want to hear about it. It her kids let her ask what she wants. When my little girl gets home from school I ask things like "did yo ulook at bugs today?" "Was PE Fun" if i find she cought bugs at school I ask things like "were you nice to them" You did let them go right" "iss your teacher a bug freak" It does not mean Im obsessed with her teacher.
When my girls get back from spending the night with my inlaws I usualy ask things like "did they feed the ducks wile yo uwere there" "Did any more ducks get eaten?" Did they put the ducks up last night" Along with things like did you ahve fun what did you do. It does not mean im obsessed with my mother in law All it means is that I think she does not take care of the 16 ducks (witch are now down to 6) that I bought her because she asked for them and then griped because there were to many and then griped at me agin every time one was eaten by something because she does not have the brains enough to put them in there house (the duck house not her house)
Yes i think I would be a bit worried about the pup That does not sound like a very nice thing. Like I said My Xstepdad had no respect for animals and we always had pups (if he ran one over it was Oh well he shouldnt be under the car) But 99% of the time the mama was brought in to have her pups and she gave birth in the laundry room witch was never clean unless she was going to have pups and it stayed spotless untill the pups were 8 to 12 weeks old then they went outside untill they found homes. This guy went so far as to cut the tails of our cocker pups off with a hatchet (Hold them down on a table and one hard swing should work) just to save a few bucks. Yeat he was kind enough to give his dogs a nice place to give birth and kept it all clean untill the pups were out of the house.
Id be worried but then agin there is not much you can do about it unless you want to eather steal both the mom and pup and hope your kid does not say anything. Or steal the pup (keep it hiden so your kid does not know) and take care of it your self. Personaly I dont think thouse are good choices.
Trauma~ First of all, let me commend you on having open communication with your kids. As a divorced parent myself, I feel that it is my job to make sure that my kids are protected, not only physically, but morally. You have been dealt a bad hand by having to share your kids. You have every right as well as responsibility to keep your kids on the right track.
Teacup~You have absolutely NO RIGHT to comment on anyone's way of parenting. You were way out of line!!!
As far as the situation goes, I don't think that there is much you can do about it. Maybe the kids can encourage their dad to do right by this puppy.
TM, I agree with you completely. I come from divorced parents, and my mom always asked what I did when I came back from dads. LOL I always complained about step mom. You have every right to question how your kids are being treated and what they are doing when they are at dads. I'm sure he asks the same questions when they come to your house. I would also ask what dad says about you. I know that sometimes parents "bash" the other one, it may not seem important to the kids, but its good to know (as I got older, it drove me nuts). As for the puppy, I would be worried to. How old are your kids? Maybe, they could drop off suggestions to dad on what they can do to make mom and pup more comfortable
Teacup, back off my TM!!! She IS happy she divorced the jerk, she must have reasons to ask her kids the questions (there is a reason they are divorced). You need to stay out of her business, she is obviously concerned about her children. Doesn't that make her a good mom??? Thats what I thought, she is a good mom.
I do not pry in my childrens lives, I know they get enough of that when they go home, as to what goes on here. They talk to ME, if they feel like it...Every single time I get them, my daughter wants to turn the tv off and talk and my son disappears in the den with my husband to play xbox football....
They cannot and DO not talk about anything fun we do here or how much they adore my husband as they would get the third degree from him. Ashley told me yesterday that they have no idea how much she loves Stitch and how cool she is when she comes here....how sad is that?
I dont care if they have a good time at their dads. In fact, I am sending them a bon voyage card this Friday as they leave for Hawaii next week, as their dad is getting married there and they are all going. Its the trip of a lifetime and I want them to have fun. I am not bitter about him taking her there.....cause I dont want to be with the jerk, no matter what. I coulda had him back, I lived there a time AFTER we were divorced. I didnt want to live the way I had to there. I let her get the *prize.*
He's a great pet owner. He has a dog on a chain in the back yard, a mini horse that gets the snot beat out of it when it charges the fiance (which I am sure she learned from my ex) because it is a stallion and because they dont do any positive reinforcement with it.
Yeah, its great listening to my child say she thinks her christmas present she got would be better off somewhere else and in tears as her future step mom beats it up in front of her.....
My ex and I had a rottie when we were married. He is very much into intimidation and power.....that dog got slapped around alot and I would try to defend it, as I did my children (who just got alot of verbal abuse). We ended up putting her down after she bit my son, the one who lives with the new rottie right now.
I was abused by him in ways I cannot post here.
So dont you DARE JUDGE ME!!!
This is about my children, their concerns and their safety. I know how things are run in that house.
***Edited By: TraumaMamma on 9/6/2006 7:11:35 PM*** Reason: add
You havent a clue as to what I do in my home, but I can tell you, I take the high road every time, despite my ex, who never does.
I DONT put my kids in the middle, but my ex sure does.
Do not speculate how you think a conversation goes with my kids (judging me) because you have no idea. Your posts are filled with "I bet you..."
And please dont counsel me on why I married him or had kids with him, etc ect....
Again, you are clueless. I dont have to explain anything to you, my dear.
I believe YOU have some issues, sister! This board is FILLED with people who complain about how animals are treated and kept and because I know someone personally who I divorced who is doing it, I am suddenly bashing my ex?
Actually, I dont know many people who have nice names for their ex's. I was being nice with Jerk.
***Edited By: TraumaMamma on 9/6/2006 7:24:46 PM*** Reason: whatever
I just had to say TM I totaly back you up 100%. It makes you a better mom just being there to listen and a great mom for being worried about everything that goes on in theie life. I see nothing wrong in what you did, I only see a great mom trying to protect and educate her children. As for your ex and his dogs, I feel sorry for them and wish them the best for I think they may need it.
I have never been divorced and Im with TM. She has the right to know exactly whats going on in that house because her kids are there. Its going to be hard on the kids (depending on the ages) to go to one house and see one thing and then go to another and see something totaly diffrent. If she came on here and said My Exs new woman is doing drugs you wouldnt be saying "so what if she does crack under the table" Yes I know thats a bit to the extreem but when you are teaching your kids to stay away from drugs you dont want them around a druggy, when you are teaching your kids how to treat animals you dont want them around someone who is not treating an animal right.