I am a dog trainer and to stir contoversy with my dog friends again. I have some folks who have a problem recalling older dogs(older i mean more than a year) one of them invested in an shock collar. it is working well for them. i never used them, i never even thought about it...i consider it cheating. they used it a couple of times and the dog is doing very well.
I think its cruel to use a shock/e-collar but that is just my opinion. If people do use them on their dogs, they need trained by someone on how to use them. Some people just figure that if they shock their dog when they do something wrong, its going to correct the problem. People don't realize that it can make the problems worse and harm your dog.
if used properly and under the guidance of someone who is trained with them then i see no reason why you can't use them. though i think they should be used if other positive training methods have not been successful after given a good go at it. for some people it is the lazy way to train. kind of like sitting on your porch and giving the dog a command then a zap like a remote control.as with all training methods they all have there function. the only people i know who use these types of collars are hunters when they are training their dogs for hunting.
The dog knows a treat is comming from you, your hand. If a dog knows you are shocking him, do you think he is gonna listen?? No, he's going to think you are abusing him and he isnt gonna listen. When people use shock collars they dont show the dog that they are the one shocking them. Would you shock your child evertime they did something wrong?? I'd hope not
My Ab thought the world was her's to but i always used to work with her in my front yard and when i called her and she came i would reward her with a treat then she learned to come then i would only give her a treat everynow and then then i stopped it all together. Now she has no problem comming when called
If the dog gets shocked instead of crushed by a car I am all for it. I do think that a dog should learn this behavior incase the collar is not on, though. Placing a dog on a 30 foot lead and pulling it to you when you call it is a good training tool. It has to be done many times, but it teaches the behavior.
okay pup, you ever own a belgian malinois. if you haven't you have no idea what strong will is. if you accompany the shock with a voice correction you bet he is going to put 2 and 2 together and figure it is coming from you. the dog in question seems to be more relaxed no that his owner has commanded that he be looked at the leader. the dog is more affectionate. not really the actions of an abused animal
the animal to is not a kid. he is a dog. unlike a human he doesn't speak english. I once was against he collars and have even tested the device on my self. it is equivalt to a static electrical shock. just something to get his attentio
dog pack structure is not judicail or democratic there can be no doubt who the alpha is. and beligian is unlike any dog i have ever trained energetic to learn. but also with so high a prey a drive a house can consume it's attention by flying by. it will tune out everything. the dog was even immune to the choke collar after a while. this is the dogs blessing and curse. this why they make good police dogs. there have stories of these dogs getting shot and still tracking the perp with there last breath
I have used a shock collar. It works great. The way it teaches them to respond to you is because you pair it with a voice command. The amount of "shock" is adjustable, it is not even almost like electrocuting the dog or anything. But he/she will stop what he is doing and listen to you. I have done it on me, and sometimes I sneak up and zap my husband with it. It is actually less "rough" (for lack of a better word) than the prong collar. Though I have no problem with prong collars, either. I like them for teaching to walk nicely on-leash.
I have 2 pits and a invisible fence. The e-collars are not cruel if used correctly. The amount of correction on these collars can be adjusted to suit the amount of correction the dog needs.They are not cruel,and the correction is not painful,more like an annoyance.It's enough to keep the dogs away from the boundry line,and they don't want to go near it because they don't like the feeling,like I said it don't hurt them at all.The same premise goes for the e-collars for other corrections and training you can use them for. Anything can be bad if abused.
I don't like shock collars, have seen to many pets with burn marks on their necks from them, especially with electric fences. I like the citronella collars with the remote for training, and just the regular ones for bark problems. More humane to me.
Whether you agree with them or not (I do not care for them), it is important to remember that they are not recommended for small dogs. I have read on several websites that it is too much for the small breeds so please remember that if anyone is thinking about using them on a Chihuahua or Yorkie etc. I prefer to use reinforcement training. It takes longer but it last longer too.
Therepy Mom ,just let ya know niether one of my dogs has ever been burnt by the e-collars from the fence. Again I reiterate it doesn't hurt the dog,it's more of a annoyance feeling that the dogs don't like. I put up to myself,it doesn't hurt at all.