Tell me, what is the point of the AKC if they don't care about the conditions of the dogs being bred into their registry? Maybe if they DID care and step up and took a stand against these puppy mills and byb's they would decrease. Oh yeah...then AKC would lose money. Ugh!
I'm so annoyed. I know of an ESS breeder in VA that allowed the mother of 9 day old puppies die of heat stroke. Why was she outside, away from her pups, long enough to die of heat stroke? Oh yeah, and they announce it on their website as a "feel bad for me" way to sell the puppies!!! Not to mention that same mother was only 2 and already had 3 previous litters. Makes me sick to my stomach. I contacted the springer rescue, ESSFTA, local humane society and AKC. Springer rescue and ESSFTA can't help, havent heard back from the humane society, and AKC can't do "enforce good breeding practices". Why not? Why don't they?
Grrr makes me so mad.
***Edited By: thelifeofriley on 10/13/2006 10:01:57 AM*** Reason: add
I sent them another letter getting a little blunt with them, they told me they will not let someone register the dogs if the kennel doesnt meet certain conditions. I read the conditions, describes the minimal at a puppy mill. Blah.
See, I already tried to tell you all that, they have the same criteria pretty much as the state agriculture dept. that does their kennel licensing. They don't care as long as they are getting registration fees for it. Think about their registration fees and the thousands of dogs registered. Think about how much money they are raking in. ALOT!
Do you think that it's possible for the AKC to regulate every person that registers a dog? Since they are a registry that mainly promotes the exhibition of purebred dogs, they can only take complaints and suspend a person's registry as needed. The AKC is not the Humane Society, Animal Control, or an ARA group, they are a registry.
On another note, I've been involved with the American Rabbit Breeders Assoc. for 16 years and they are also a registry, as well as a club that promotes the exhibition of purebred rabbits, handles membership, and many other things. When you register a rabbit, it must have no disqualifications and is registered by a licensed ARBA Registrar. Something the AKC should consider!
I understand they cannot do anything legally to these people. But maybe they shouldn't allow you to register dogs if you're having dozens of litters a year. Or breeding females under a year old (which I know of many breeders that do!). Kick these puppy mills out of their registry and don't allow them to register. When someone buys an AKC dog they should also know its coming from a good breeding facility, is my opinion.
The AKC is first and foremost a registry that keeps careful records of the pedigrees of purebred dogs. It is, as others have said, not a humane society, animal rights group or anything else. It is a record keeping service that offers events and functions for purebred dog owners to participate in. If a beagle puppy comes from two akc registered beagle parents, regardless of the conditions the dogs are kept in, that puppy is still a purebred beagle, is it not?
The AKC is far from perfect, but it is better than nearly every other available dog registry in the US, with the exception of the United KC... and even the UKC has it's flaws (for example, it will accept for full registry dogs that have limited AKC rgistration). At least I can see the registration dollars going to work by providing hundreds.... no thousands, of events around the country for dog enthusiasts to participate in. Show me another dog registry in the US that offers so much? You can't.
The AKC has done a lot to crack down on puppy mill breeders. For example, any stud dog used more than 5 times in it's life must have it's DNA registered. People who have been convicted of animal abuse/neglect or are found to keep false breeding records can be banned permanently from registering dogs with the AKC, this kind of thing. A couple of years ago, they made a new regulation that makes any household that has more than 7 litters in a year subject to unannounced inspections by AKC officials. Before this rule had been put into effect, 1 household could register litters under multiple names, to avoid inspections.
It standards like these that have caused puppy mill brokers and breeders to create other registries like the continental Kennel club, the Universal Kennel Club, the APRI, etc. In fact, it's because the AKC is at least attempting to control the situation that the numbers of dogs registered wtih these fly by night registries have ballooned so much in the past ten years. It's like cats making rats jump ship.
As an aside, I'm sorry but given the fact that Riley's breeder has intentionally has bred cryptorchid dogs, she's not exactly what I'd call a quality AKC breeder and would be subject to the AKC's 'enforcing good breeding practices'.
***Edited By: Minniyar on 10/13/2006 12:19:40 PM*** Reason: correction :P
AKC does inspect breeders yearly who register 7 or more litters per year. Last year I registered 7 litters for the first time and by March I believe, had some one from AKC at my door. Nice fellow, looked at all my dogs throughly, scanned them and looked at their records. He told me stories of things that he had dealt with in puppymills and stuff, sounds pretty awful.
Even in the bad, bad situations, he could NOT do anything legally. He had to contact AC or the authorities. Yes they can ban or sanction the breeder, but it is fairly easy to get some one else to register your dogs in their name if you are dishonest.
To blame AKC for poor breeding conditions, would be like to blame puppyfind, nextdaypets or even terrificpets. They also take money from who ever gives it to them for advertising, with out checking any of the conditions that they are coming from. It is ultimately up to the buyer to either make the choice of researching, or to say 'I don't care' and buy the first cute puppy they see.
True ali. I still am not impressed with their efforts. With the millions of dollars they make, they could do more. They are a very influential organization. The fact they even thought to make a deal with petland made me sick.
I was told by ESSFTA if I contacted AKC, one of the reps could do one of those visits to the breeder like you had, but when I contacted AKC they said no they can't do that?
Minniyar, thanks but I like my breeder. I'm actually planning a vacation in the next year or two to go out and visit her for a week. She wants to see Riley and Jaz again, I'd love to meet their parents, and I want to hit some of the trails up in those gorgeous mountains! Should be fun.
***Edited By: thelifeofriley on 10/13/2006 12:29:45 PM*** Reason: *
LOR-- I am suprised that they couldn't do a visit. Maybe they are bound by their rules that they can't do a visit if some one hasn't had the 7 REGISTERED litters a year. Maybe the breeder in question uses a different registry some of the time to aviod the inspections. Maybe they have some of their dogs in other people's names to avoid inspections. If they have 7 or more AKC litters per year they WOULD be inspected.
They make no bones about being only a registry that guarantees parentage and NOT quality, health or anything else. $15 is not that much, if they had to guarantee, health, quality and conditions for every litter of puppies born.
What would they have to charge per puppy to send out an inspector every time some one had a litter? $200-300 a registration? And yes I am being extreme, but they also have to keep things fair and go with in there own rules and guidlines. They are not an animal welfare agency. There are proper authorities that deal with animal abuses.
STDOGZ-- I have your e-mail, you can erase it.
***Edited By: alicat1 on 10/13/2006 1:30:30 PM*** Reason: ad
At risk of a long post and repeateing things already pointed out...I agree with Minniyar 100%.
AKC is a registry, not a humane society. I understand your concern, but considering the millions of dogs registered over time with their registry, they would never be able to go out and inspect every person that a private complaint came in on about the way the dogs are cared for. There are orginizations that are responsible for that.
Now, if you get animal control, humane society, etc to go inspect and she is found to be neglectful.....then AKC will step in to revoke her registration rights.
There's nothing wrong with the UKC. They and the actual CKC are more rigorous than the AKC.
If you look at registering a dog with the UKC, it specifies that a dog with limited papers only gets limited papers from them. And they want a copy of your dogs papers as well. They aren't doing anything shady....
I agree with Minneyar and LPN. The AKC does very well as a registry, that's what they are-that's what they do.
It is very important to stress to everyone, that the word AKC is not synomonous with quality of the puppy, quality of the breeder, health, nothing. I see many ads that read... "AKC Quality puppies" when in fact it should read... "Quality AKC puppies" AKC has nothing to do with the quality.
Let's say that Bob has 2 litters of 'labs' in his lifetime. He's not really sure who the father is, but assumes that it's his neighbors purebred 'lab' and the neighbor is willing to go along with it. If any of the puppies were sired by the other neighbors 'springer' then, they of course would not be all purebred-ok we all know that. Well since Bob doesn't raise more than 7 litters in a year or his neighbors dog in his lifetime-the AKC will not do a required DNA of the parents to the puppies, if there is not a complaint.
So, to make my story even longer, Bob advertises them as "AKC Quality Lab Puppies" and makes a good bundle on them. Bob is irresponsible, but to some, it may not look like it, as he is a private home breeder, who's neighbor also has a purebred. There is that fine line between the BYB.