so, we move on saturday. hurray! however, right now i am sitting in a duplex filled with sewer gas. our neighbor also suffering. our landlord is out of town and claims, "there is nothing i can do". i am looking at a LIST of 24hr. emergency plumbers in our area. my landlord proceeded to cuss at my fiance' and hang up on him. the smell is unbearable and all the windows are cranked open so it is freezing in here. i thought sewer gas was toxic. it probably even takes less for a dog. i am sooo upset.
need moral support! we are out of here in 4 days! can we make it?
Septic fumes are very toxic. Please call a plumber and have them bill your land lord. Or Hubby suggests that you call the fire dept.
I worked at a diner and we had septic back up. Managers refused to do anything so I called a friend in the pd he said that it is toxic and to evacuate the building. he put in a call to the fire dept and I had one pissed off manager on my hands.
It is toxic and can be fatal depending on intensity.
Well, you don't necessarily have to call the media.
I was thinking that you could just scare the crap out of the guy. Just let him know that due to the massive health concerns, that the health department and the media is all over it.
A lot of the time, landlords are pretty much convinced that their tenants are just stupid and not aware of their own rights. Just because you're moving doesn't mean you have no rights, because you absolutely do, and just so you are perfectly clear, this IS a legitimate health concern...not only to you, but even to the neighbors that are surrounding your duplex.
He's pushing his luck by putting you off like that, and he has to know it...he's just taking a chance that you're stupid, and you're clearly not, so you need to let him know that.
If that doesn't scare the guy into doing the right thing then by all means, call everyone you have to, because I think it will reach a certain point where evacuation is mandatory.
Also, make sure that he's the responsible party, and that it isn't something your city would be liable for.
Most important though, is call your local law enforcement and health department, because regardless of what a jerk your landlord is, your health and that of your family should be your number one priority, and SOMEONE is responsible for making sure you have a safe place to stay until it's fixed.
***Edited By: Lorrix on 1/8/2007 10:43:14 PM*** Reason: added.
wow. last night sucked. so after i wrote the last post, i told my neighbor she should leave, but she didn't want to. we left last night and my head is still pounding this morning. i also called the landlord back last night and told him that he was out of line and needed to deal with the situation immediately. he refused because the plumber he has "under contract" was too busy. so, a plumber is coming over to "check things out" sometime today. i am at my mom's house right now. i went back to my duplex briefly this morning and it still stunk but not as bad. do you think there's anything i can do about the landlord? probably nothing now. i cannot wait to get out of this place. everyone involved is nuts. i thought i was going to vomit and or pass out by the time we left. neither of us should have been driving.
Thanks everyone for responding. TM you really helped me. honestly, when i got back online i was lost in some sort of fog and i just saw the words "get out". after i went outside i realized how sick i felt and how bad it was. i guess when you are sitting in the fumes, you lose the ability to tell how bad it is. so thank you because you might have saved our lives and probably definitely cooper's.
I would definately still contact the media....just local for now....once the newspapers get a hold of this, I can tell you, your landlord will change his tune.
This kinda stuff ticks me off....I am not the same person I was 25 yrs ago, I used to take people at their word and used to let people run the show.
Bottom line is, darlin, you put him on alert, your health and family is at risk and he wasnt taking any steps to help you out and didnt lose any sleep or bat an eye that you and yours may be getting sick or even DIE!
Oh, no...its game on at that point....time to kick the tires and light the fires!!
Please contact your local Emergency management agency, as that is what he is there for....and all the others Red cross, etc....that I told you about....
The next tenant may not be as lucky.....protect your rights and make sure he follows thru on this so you are helping the next people this jerk has to deal with !
Trust me, that landlord does not want a complaint filed with them. This happened to me about 10 years ago when the septic in our old disgusting apt was backing up into the basement. I called the landlord who basically told me to stuff it and there wasn't anything she could do til Monday (it was Friday)
I hung up with her, called the health department and reported her and called her back to tell her what I had done. Amazing how quickly someone arrived to rectify the situation........
Good luck and STAY OUT OF THAT PLACE! It's dangerous. Shame on that landlord....
In emergency cases where the landlord is unable or unwilling to take care of the problem in a timely manner, the tenet can get someone to take care of it, pay for it and then submit the recipt to the landlord. The landlord may also be liable for motel room cost as well. The problem with that is if the landlord refuses to reimburse you, you will need a judge to decide if it was really an emergency and if the landlord is liable.
He probably has a home warrantee that will send a plumber that they work with to fix the problem. Going outside that company will come out of his own pocket which is what he is trying to avoid. My suggestion is if the landlord is taking care of the problem, let it go, unless you want to move again really soon.
The health department, the building and safety department and the code enforcement department are the demons that haunt every landlordís nightmares. No sane landlord would want those people to get involve in a dispute. It rarely ends well for the landlord. Just the mere mention of them would make me jump through hoops to shut up the tenant. But that is also the easiest way to piss off the landlord and get you evicted for the first and smallest violation of your lease, or as soon as the lease expires. You donít want to have an unhappy landlord. No one likes a tattle tale and a trouble maker.
Tenets may have rights, but so do landlords. People tend to forget that, and then wonder why the landlord is such an ass hole when they need to bend the rules a little like having few more days to pay the rent, having a friend or family member move in with you for an extended period of time, having a party, parking in the wrong spot and other thing of this nature which may be in violation of the lease.
This is one of the main reasons why I only rent on a month to month lease. If I get trouble makers, it is easier to get rid of them.
however, right now i am sitting in a duplex filled with sewer gas. our neighbor also suffering. our landlord is out of town and claims, "there is nothing i can do". i am looking at a LIST of 24hr. emergency plumbers in our area. my landlord proceeded to cuss at my fiance' and hang up on him. the smell is unbearable and all the windows are cranked open so it is freezing in here
Juno, I see your point, but.... I dont see where cooper was being unreasonable....and the landlord didnt try to help, was swearing and hung up on the fiance. I feel they have every right to go over the landlords heads....who whoever..health dept, or media..
They called him first, put it in his lap and he decided to ignore it.....This is not some small little thing that can wait....they could have DIED.
Hell yeah, the Health dept should be stalking him and on his back right now....
Regarding home warranties? We have one....its not hard to get someone out for them...furthermore, some things cannot wait until Monday.....if its an emergency as this was, it needs to be dealt with....
As a tenant, you do have rights protecting you. I would make those phone calls and then maybe contact a lawyer or someone you might know that is in real estate contracts or something to go over your lease or the applicable laws in your state/city/county. Your situation is gross negligence on the Landlord's part because he has been informed of the hazardous situation and has done nothing about it. Definitely don't let this person get away with this!