I didn't say that murderous people and mean dogs ought to be grouped together or even treated equally. I am questioning why people here have a tendency to regard the misbehaving dog as totally blameless, whereas the human should be jailed, tortured, or worse.
No, not everyone who was abused grows up to be an axe-murderer. But that's beside the point. Not every abused dog lashes out, either.
Yes, people have the capacity to distinquish between right and wrong. But is that inate? Or learned? If you look around the world (or just around the block), you'll have to agree that "right" and "wrong" is subjective. And just because *most* people have the capability to stay within the bounds of "decency" doesn't mean everyone can.
There are some real bad apples out there -- no doubt. I don't know -- I guess I just need to stick up for my own species sometimes.
The big difference is that people are supposed to know that it's wrong to put a puppy in the oven and torture it. We (supposedly) have a conscience, morals, and compassion. Even if those boys were abused, they still had to know better, yet they did it anyway.
Dogs aren't equipped with those things when they do bad things. Dogs are often driven by instinct and the need to defend themselves. Often a reaction response without any elaborate thinking or planning behind it.
Those boys, though-they schemed, they plotted, they tortured, killed, and then bragged about it.
You simply just can't compare the two.
I'm curious though, in the list of charges they're facing, I don't see any mention of animal cruelty in the article. I would think that it would be listed right up at the top, and the fact that it wasn't mentioned is a bit startling to me.
"When a dog does something horrible to a person, alot of people side with the dog -- he must have been abused;it's not his fault, etc etc.
When a person does something horrible to a dog, everyone sides with the dog.
Does anyone wonder if maybe the human was abused? Why give the dog the benefit of the doubt, but never a person?"
I think the general public does not side with a dog when it bites. My experience is the dog gets gased. I think we are much harder on dogs. If it was possible...if a dog put a 3 month old human in the oven.....I think the dog would not fair as well as these boys did.
I believe a dog's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment he holds dear, is when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle-with a ball in his mouth."
That is an absolutely disgusting thing to do. That's murder!!! Those boys obviously have mental problems, especially when they've already commited a bunch of other crimes. Where are their parents? They need major help, I hope they get some kind of testing done in jail so they can treat these boys. If not, I'm afrid what they'll do when they're out loose again. Probably will kill all kinds of people.
Poor puppy. That is SO sad.
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That is disturbing on a whole lot of levels. For one how could they even find a lawyer to defend them. I would not be able to sleep at night if I was that lawyer. I think those boys need to feel the same kind of pain. I have an upset stomach now.
wow...I can't even begin to think what that pup (or the threatened kids!) suffered through at the hands of those two boys. What's up with the defense attorney stating that he had hoped his clients' sentence would focus more on rehab?!?! Yes, probation and rehab would definitely help more than 10 years in the big house...that way they could continue thier abuse on animals, and graduate to torturing humans a little quicker. They will hopefully get the help they need while incarcerated, however absuing animals is one of the "signs" of being on the way to a serial killer...
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This is atrocious! First of all these were not really children! They were adults, I hope that they serve the whole ten years, if these two are loose on society imagine what their next victim could be! That is how serial killers get started, they start with animals and then work their way up to humans. It has been documented time and time again, how this happens. They don't deserve our pity! They knew exactly what they were doing,and to scar other children with their act was horrible! Don't pity these two.
The reason we need to punish people when they do something so CRUEL to an animal, is because it is a FACT that they WILL move onto a human. Why not prevent it before it happens? Throw them in jail for 25 years no parole. "Euthanize" them... whatever.
NoDogYet, IMO dogs don't have the capability of knowing right from wrong abused or not, they were born with instinct. Humans, on the other hand do (should) know right from wrong no matter how they were treated, specially at the ages these two were. If they were abused I feel really, really sorry for them but I feel there comes a time in everyones life when you can not blame your bahavior on your past, you have to accept the consequences for your bahavior because you are old enough to make choices and know right from wrong. No one told them to do this, they choose to do this on their own and I don't think 10 yrs. is long enough. I have heard where in some prisons the inmates get assigned a dog perhaps from a shelter and ones that can not be adopted out because of behavorial problems and they become that dogs trainer and they have to work with that dog on obeidence training (the inmates are watched so they don't mistreat the dogs) and they both, the inmate and the dog, have to pass the tests, if the dog fails so does the inmate. This type of program is like a privilege for the inmates, I don't know what the regulations are but I think it sounds like a pretty good program. Sounds like a win, win situation to me. The dogs that pass are now adoptable and the inmates learn what it is to have unconditional love. Just my opinions.