I have done this on another forum, I'm surprised that people recommend breeds which do not fit what I'm looking for. Such as suggesting an Australian Terrier which is small and hairy when I stated medium-large breed with short hair.
Even though I already have dogs I would like some suggestions. Find out what other people think would fit my breed needs. It will be interesting to see and who knows I might end up with a suggested breed I've never thought of that would work pretty good for me.
*I have a lot of dog experience, raising, training, showing. I know some breeds are not good for first timers, which I'm not.
*Medium to large size I don't want a mini or toy breed.
*Doesn't drool or at least only minimal, like slobbery after drinking water is ok but not a constant icky drool.
*Doesn't have wrinkled skin, like the Shar Pei or Neo, I don't want wrinkles that need to be cleaned, need special treatment or can cause skin problems. Thats a lot of work in some cases.
*Low grooming level, I don't want a breed that needs regular cuts and trims. A short coat, low maintenance coat, don't mind brushing and caring for it, but want a breed that is typically low shedding.
*I can handle a dominant breed, but don't need a dominant breed, just don't count them out.
*I don't mind a breed with a high prey drive. Doesn't need to get along with other animals.
*I can handle a breed that is dog aggressive and deal with that.
*Would like a breed that is moderately easy to train, I can deal with one that needs a lot of training and different training methods. One who is smart and gets bored of redundant training, but don't want an outright independent and stubborn breed. That frustrates me a little bit.
*I have a lot of land and some privacy being in the country. If a non wanderer can have some free roam, a dog that needs it a fence and one that needs it a tie out. Most outings will be supervised or with the family, but in some cases the dog will get their own outdoor dog break/potty break.
*One that is athletic and won't mind some long walks, runs or swims.
*A guardian breed is ok, but this is not a must. I do like a lot of the breeds which fall into this category.
Beagles are small right? I think they are also independent in nature like most hound breeds.
Pit Bulls I could do.
Its just personal preference but I do not like Australian Cattle Dogs. Many people here have ACDs, they are extremely popular. Ex neighbor had them, its too bad that so many people here do not control them. They would chase/bite people, come here to start fights with the dogs and pee on the vehicles tires. This fool had the nerve to report "neglected" dogs here because he hates Pit Bulls. He admitted this to a friend of ours he was the one that called, said he hated Pit Bulls and his old neighbor used to have a 100 vicious fighting dogs. yeah right. Not why I don't like them, they can be a great breed and an excellent dog. He is just an example of someone who shouldn't own them or any other dog!!!! There are a lot of people who actually know what they are doing, but a lot like him that just have them because they are a cheap, common breed here that is easily acquired. The same goes for Pit Bulls and Labs. The downfalls of popular breeds. His dogs were just doing what comes natural to them. They bred to drive and protect livestock which also meant protecting property from cattle thieves. However the breed from what I've seen tend to have an independent nature, while they are a huge asset to many of the ranchers here they don't need a lot of one on one human contact, they work side by side but are not one of those extremely close breeds. I think I want one that bonds closer to their pack.
Don't Labs shed a lot? Or is this not typical. The ones that I met seemed to, along with GSDs. I know there are some Lab breeders here who would know if this is normal?
Several hunting dogs seem to fit your criteria (besides being guardians). Gun dogs, in general, need to take direction from a person, rather than work independently, like to please people, and are not nose-dominated like hounds.
Vizsla, brittany, pointer are ones with lower grooming requirements. But shedding? I'm not sure. I think those all are single-coated, which should help in that regard.
***Edited By: NoDogYet on 10/30/2007 1:35:38 PM*** Reason: sp
Hmmm NoDogYet now that breed selector test makes sense. I took the quizes and they came up with hunting dogs which I don't really like, but bunches of them. Pointer, Setters, ect. I was surprised but it really makes sense now.
I have owned all of those except the Beauceron and wouldn't turn down the chance to own one. They all were very compatible with me and I really liked each breed, some more then others. I don't care too much for GSD really or maybe even Rott, but I still like them. There are so many bybs out there with those 2 breeds hard to find a good one.
I wonder how one can really get an accurate idea of whats a good breed for them. Breed quizzes give you a variance and so do recommended breed. The criteria fits over several different breed types, so who knows. I think it takes time to narrow it down to what you like and then research the breeds. It is weird how 2 different types of breed can fit within a certain criteria.
I agree that the breed selectors only help to a certain point. The questionaires I remember taking kept coming up with *beagle* -- even when I was picking no barking/no baying/no digging/no escaping-type answers.
Well I didn't say "no" of any certain type of breed because I want to see what people think. A hunting breed might very well fit in with my lifestyle and be a breed of dog to give a chance.
One breed from another forum I asked about was Smooth Collies. This was the same post but I researched a bit and asked about this breed myself. Collies are not a breed I am typically attracted to or would normally consider. But I researched them and they sounded like they would fit almost to a tee. I asked of others experience with smooth or rough collies and it seemed to be on target with what I read. Now I'm finding them pretty interesting! Even though normally I wouldn't have even thought of them.
I'm not sure what it is I don't like. Most Setters have feathered hair so I'm not fond of that. My Mom always liked Setters Irish and English. Just not something I like?
The Short haired ones like German Shorthaired Pointer, Vizla, Weimeraner, I don't have anything personally against them! I mean serious, its just weird how I'm not attracted to them. I have read about the GSP and they sound like they would fit with us and are a pretty easy breed. Now Weims I've known people who owned them and said they are most happy with hunting and need a lot of training? I'm not much into that type of hunting and don't really want a dog for that purpose. They said some can be unhappy without a hunting type job. They also said they are a bit stubborn sometimes, so you need the patience to deal with that. I'm not sure where the Viszla lies in all that.
EDIT I just looked back at your post. Brittanies also have the longer feathered coat. Most I have met were kind of yappy? I'm not saying overly yappy where they bark all the time, just when they did bark it was higher pitched which I find annoying. Cocker Spaniels also have longer hair and need some grooming.
Now one of my favorite dogs ever was a Lab/Springer Spaniel and she was VERY smart, kind of energetic, and learned very quick, she figured things out herself. Even though either breed isn't one that I "like" I sure did like her.
I didn't mention setters because of all the feathering. (Irish setters are spoiled for me since the one I knew as a kid. She was sweet, but a saliva machine and dumb as a post.)
Depending on the lines, some of the hunting breeds kind be pretty high-strung. You have to expect that if they're bred to be able to go all day long. They don't need to hunt, but they need to go-go-go.
Of what little I know about smooth collies, I think you might be on to something.
Add Re brittanys: They might have some feathering, but the coat type is practically "self-cleaning." We never took ours to the groomer before he died :-( -- just some brushing.
Following WW II my family may have brought the first registered Shiba Inu into the USA when we returned from Japan (where my dad was in the service), in 1953 or 1954. "Lucky" (hence, in part, my screen name), was our family's first dog & he was WONderful! After Lucky passed away my dad went for about 40 years before he could bring himself to have another dog. My folks divorced &, living with my mom, we always had dogs but losing Lucky broke my dad's heart. When he finally did get another dog - when he was in his 70's - my dad named him "Gluecklich" - German for, yep, you guessed it, "Lucky".
Somewhere (since January) on the Terrific Pets' "dog-talk" forum I posted a long & loving tribute to "our guy" but darned if I know how to find it & refer you to it.
I don't know about shedding, I was only 3 or 4 to about 9 or 10 years old when we had Lucky & dog hair wasn't an issue for my mom (smile), but he lived in our home (with a Shiba Inu-mix [a stray we also brought home from Japan] & their son), & he was very devoted to our family. Tiasa, the mix, lived to about 15 years old & Musco, their son, was with us for 16 years during which time he was my very BEST-est friend for all those years.
Shiba-Inus, by standard, run on the medium-small side, (around 30 pounds I think?), but the larger "version" would be the Akita which supposedly have the same personalities & traits.
Food for thought...good luck on your quest!
***Edited By: Lucky Lady on 10/30/2007 2:00:16 PM*** Reason: *
My first thought when I read the post was a Wiem. Does it need to be AKC recognized breed? How about a Dalmation? Never thought I would recommend that breed. LOL Long history of being knocked down by one daily when I was in Kindergarten.
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Just want to add my 2 cents on gundogs. I've known a few weims, and every one of them was neurotic! Seriously-no exceptions. I think most people get them just because of their looks and pay no attention to breeding. They are also HIGHLY prone to bloat, as are GSP.
Vizslas are very high energy, and yet, are known as the "velcro dog". Can't take stern corrections-it's just not in their personality. Also hard to find a well-bred vizsla. (and believe me-I tried!!!)
Brittanys are wonderful. I have honestly never recommended a brit to anybody, although I love my two. Guess I like the fact that they aren't a real popular breed. But as such, they have relatively few health problems or temperment problems, because they haven't been over-bred and/or poorly bred.
Maggie and Emma have 2 distinct personalities. Maggie can hunt all day and then lay on the couch all evening-sleeps in bed with us at night. But beware rainy days when she doesn't get as much exercise!!! But she can tend to be aloof and doesn't necessarily need a lot of attention.
Emma is a love bug. She wants to be with someone. As long as you're in the same room, she'll do her own thing. If you leave the room-she'll follow. If she can't follow-she whines! Maggie couldn't care less where you go, unless it's outside-THEN she has to be with you!!!
As far as barking-Maggie very rarely barks. But when she does, she won't shut up! Emma, at 6 months-I've only ever heard her bark twice. So my experience is, they are NOT a barking breed. (hard to sneak up on a bird when you're barking, I guess!)
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