Thanks to this message board we think we found the answer to lab tests that were really out there. I thank you all for posting this. The vet also found a heart murmur so she put him on Science Diet heart food (Thankfully my other Cavalier was not effected, he was tested too, he always does better with problems). After reading all this I didn't even do a 50/50 switch, Wellness was not going to be in their system any longer. I have to wait till all the meds are done until more blood tests can be done and this has already been a week since this was discovered, now waiting to finish the meds has my stress level up, for I just want the answer and get my best friend on a regiment so he he will be healthy while my mind is not in constant worry. Thankfully I think we caught the problem in time. All the very bad liver symptoms I read have yet to effect my dog, and I have been keeping an eye on him as much as possible. Thank you all for posting, you may have saved my dogs life.
I brought home a new bag of Wellness for Large breed puppies. He had been on wellness before. I bought a bag of adult Wellness for large breeds for a friend's Golden at the same time. Both dogs became ill. Mine developed severe Nausea, vomiting, diarreha. 5 trips to the VET treated with shotgun approach of IV fluids, antibitoics, pepcid, cerenia, reglan--you name it. Was put on a special Rx canned food--got much better. Started reintroducing the Wellness---now BLOODY diarrhea. My 8 month old puppy tested negative for EVERYTHING--liver, kidneys-normal. No pancreatitis. No obvious toxins. Negative stool for any parasites etc. etc. There is something seriously wrong with the Wellness dog food. Our breeder just took all her Goldens off the Wellness because they weren't thriving!
I don't care about the money--but so far this has cost over $2000.00 in Vet bills. I am glad we have Pet insurance. Do not give your dogs Wellness. Our baby almost died.
I'm so sorry so many of you have had to deal with such distressing illnesses in your babies. I am a veterinarian, and I just want to say that if you ever have a problem come up in your dog that you believe is associated with a commercial food, PLEASE contact the company and the FDA, or at least bring the concern up with your veterinarian. Problems in the manufacturing process that slip through quality control can only be identified with good data, which means that one central place collects data on all the cases like y'alls.
(I Apologize for the big block of text; haven't quite identified what the proper formatting is for this forum)
If you have concerns that any animal food product may be the cause of an animal illness or death, is spoiled before its time, or defective in some way, you should report it to the manufacturer and the FDA. You can report complaints about a pet food product
From the FDA website: What products does FDA regulate?
Consumers can play an important public health role by reporting to FDA any adverse reactions or other problems with products the agency regulates.
FDA is responsible for ensuring that foods are safe, wholesome, and correctly labeled.
It also oversees medicines, medical devices (from bandages to artificial hearts), blood products, vaccines, cosmetics, veterinary drugs, animal feed, and electronic products that emit radiation (such as microwave ovens and video monitors), ensuring that these products are safe and effective.
Why should I report?
The testing that helps to establish the safety of products, such as drugs and medical devices, is typically conducted on small groups before FDA approves the products for sale. Some problems can remain unknown, only to be discovered when a product is used by a large number of people. When problems with FDA-regulated products occur, the agency wants to know about them and has several ways for the public to make reports. Timely reporting by consumers, health professionals, and FDA-regulated companies allows the agency to take prompt action.
The agency evaluates each report to determine how serious the problem is, and, if necessary, may request additional information from the person who filed the report before taking action.
What should I include in my report?
Report what happened as soon as possible. Give names, addresses and phone numbers of persons affected. Include your name, address and phone number, as well as that of the doctor or hospital if emergency treatment was provided.
State the problem clearly. Describe the product as completely as possible, including any codes or identifying marks on the label or container. Give the name and address of the store where the product was purchased and the date of purchase.
You also should report the problem to the manufacturer or distributor shown on the label and to the store where you purchased the product.
What kinds of problems doesn’t FDA handle and where can I report them?
Reports and complaints about the following should be made to the agencies listed. Phone numbers can be found in your local phone directory: Restaurant food and sanitation--Local or state health departments Unsolicited products in the mail--U.S. Postal Service Accidental poisonings--Poison control centers or hospitals Pesticides or air and water pollution--U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Hazardous household products (including toys, appliances, and chemicals)--Consumer Product Safety Commission, 1-800-638-2772 Alcoholic beverages--Department of Treasury's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Drug abuse and controlled substances--Department of Justice's Drug Enforcement Administration Hazardous chemicals in the workplace--Department of Labor's Occupational Safety and Health Administration Warranties--Federal Trade Commission Dispensing and sales practices of pharmacies--State board of pharmacy Medical practice--State certification board
Consumer product reports serve as an important alert system for FDA. Tracking systems for consumer reports are maintained in FDA's national headquarters. Reports from across the nation are forwarded to the appropriate headquarters offices whenever the problem involves a baby food, drug reaction, or any illness, injury, or life-threatening situation related to an FDA-regulated product.
More than 21 cents of every dollar spent by consumers goes for products FDA regulates. This amounts to more than $1.4 trillion a year. FDA is responsible for overseeing more than 90,000 U.S. facilities where food, drugs, and other products are manufactured, processed or stored. FDA routinely collects samples from manufacturers, producers, supermarkets, drugstores, importers, and other sources to check quality, safety and labeling. But FDA cannot be everywhere at all times. Therefore, consumer product reports are an important part of FDA's monitoring system and help ensure that the products the agency regulates are safe, properly manufactured and stored, and correctly labeled.
- - On an individual basis, there are a ton of complicating factors that can blur the direct cause/effect link with things like this. First, I can guarantee that every brand out there has at least this many people with stories about how their animal got deathly sick on that food. Animals have a wide variety of food intolerances or food allergies just like people do. A company may change its formula to include soy as a protein source, and all animals who have previously done well on the food but have a problem digesting soy will start doing poorly. Not necessarily something wrong with the food, but definitely not good for that subset of animals.
On the other hand, there are certainly examples of major issues with food (a recent problem with animals getting sick on Blue Buffalo because of a Vitamin D analogue that was undetectable by lab methods but was causing hypercalcemia and kidney failure in some dogs) that have only come to light as reports pile in from around the country; with the appropriate additional information on each case, they can identify things that are statistically significant and not likely to be just a chance occurance. The more documentation there is out there, the more likely it is that the company will do all it can to identify the problem and fix it and issue a recall.
I'm really glad that the internet gives people in isolated incidents a chance to connect with people who have similar experiences to exchange ideas etc. But as long as the information available on these cases is limited to a 1 paragraph post on a web forum, the companies don't really have much to go on. Call the company, send them your lab results, tell them how long you have been feeding and how much, DO NOT THROW AWAY YOUR BAGS as they won't do anything without lot numbers and specific brand and variety names. Make sure you have given them all of the information you have, and contact information for your veterinarian (some companies its best to have the vet call in the event)
They may not send a helicopter out immediately to buy you new food and take you out to dinner and try to fix everything but your information becomes a data point. Hopefully one out of many. Because science is all about data.
I promise nobody goes into the premium pet food business to intentionally hurt animals. Definitely the bottom line becomes more important when it becomes a bigger and bigger company, but even the cheaper brands are bound to provide safe and wholesome food that doesn't have poison in it. There are plenty of pieces in place to make sure that when people have complaints they are investigated and not swept under the rug.
It is indeed sad that it doesn't seem like there are any easily accessible affordable pet food brands that I can recommend and trust across the board. Luckily as you have shown there is a big demand for it, so there is space for growth in the market. Encourage companies that are making wholesome food with safe ingredients - tell them why you are purchasing their food and tell the manufacturer of the food you STOPPED using *why you stopped using their food and who you switched to*
I think it's too easy for us to take sides on issues like this and then we end up not sharing information that could be much more useful if combined.
I have been feeding my dog Copper wellness core and the super mix for the last 6 mths with no problem. Two weeks ago he started having severe diarrhea,was puzzled about that and talked to my friend in NY as she had her dog on another style of Wellness and he was doing the same thing, also had them bth on canned welness. I talked to the clerk at the local Petco and his dog was on Wellness also and he said I was the 4 th person that had the same problem. Itook Copper off and gave him rice and boiled chicken and gradually put him on another brand.He is getting back to normal as is my friends dog. Her vet told her that Wellness sold the company.Please let me know if anyone else had the same prolem with their dogs. Thank you, Donna. 2-25-2012.
I have been feeding my beloved dog Wellness Super5 Mix Healthy Weight for several years. And until recently, I never had a problem with the Wellness food.
The latest bag I bought was a different story. The first thing I noticed was that the kibble was yellow-ish instead of it's typical tan color. The other thing was that it had a very bad, and very strong odor.
I immediately called Wellness (now WellPet) and asked if there had been a formula change. I was told "no." It didn't dawn on me to ask if there had been an *ingredient* change.
The gentleman took some information from me. He also told me to put a cup of the kibble in a zip lock baggie and he was going to send me a mailer so I could send the sample to them.
He aslo told me that no one else had complained about the food and that there weren't any issues with that lot number.
If anyone is interested it was J 07:51, Exp. Dec. 8, 2010.
I was told to return the food and get a replacement with a different lot number.
My dog and I went to the store and we wre given two 13 lb bags instead of a 26lb bag. The large bags were sold out. I made sure the lot nubmers were different from the bag I had returned.
The first 13 lb bag, Lot# J 21:33, Exp. Dec. 7, 2012 ALSO had yellow-ish colored kibble!!! However, the kibble did not have that offensive odor.
Tenatively, I gave my dog his food.
That was on Feb. 21, 2012.
Tonight, Feb. 25, 2012, my dog is having more frequent and soft stools.
He just had his physical on Thursday, including bloodwork, and everything was PERFECT.
Now I'm afraid of the food I am feeding him.
The first thing that came to mind when I saw the yellow colored kibble was the change that Canidae had made to their food, and how dogs were getting sick and dying. Canidae also denied making any changes to their food.
I called the emergency hospital to ask them if they have been seeing dogs who are getting sick from the Wellness food.
They told me no, and that I was the first to say anything to them. The gentleman told me that when there are food problems, they usually find out quickly, as they start seeing a lot of emergencies.
Are those of us who are posting here seeing the tip of hte iceberg?
I have several bags on order that I am supposed to get on Monday. I am not sure I want the food.
The gentleman at the emergency hospital suggested that I open each bag before any money changes hands. He said if I'm not happy in any way with how it looks or smells, to leave it there.
At this point, I don't even know if I want ot bother with that. Heck, I'm not even sure I want to feed my dog one more meal. I will be evaluating what he left in the yard tonight. If there is a color or consistency difference, I am going to feed him rice and chicken and return the unopened bag and the remaining portion of hte open bag and get something like Blue Buffalo.
WHY do the companies not only make changes taht decrease the quality fo the food, but LIE about it???/
I know, that's rhetorical. It's the pursuit of the almighty dollar.
But why lie? Why not just admit there have been changes? It isn't like people aren't going to notice. We aren't as blind and stupid as they would like to think.
Why not just say "yes, there have been changes" and leave it at that?
People are entitled to make an informed decision about the food they buy, regardless of the intended consumer.
For those of you who's dogs aren't feeling well, I wish them a speedy adn full recovery.
For those who have notice a change in the food and who's dogs are not yet sick, please call Wellness/ WellPet at 800 225 0904. Tell them about the color or the odor of hte food and have them send you a mailer. Put 2 cups in a zip lock baggie and then return the rest of the bag.
I also followed the links a previous poster provided and I filed a report with the FDA. Please file one, too.
After reading these posts, 1,2,3 years later, I have to add my comment. I've been feeding my dog wellness core for about a year, and felt really good about it. However, my otherwise healthy happy 3.5 year old lab mix has had diarrhea for awhile, but it wasn't constant or too alarming. I got a new bag about two weeks ago, and for the last week or so he has been throwing up. Has thrown up 2-3 times in the 3 years I've had him. He's thrown up a couple hours after eating almost every day now since this new bag. I'm glad I searched before taking him to the vet, because I would have probably paid for exam and medicine and then continued to feed him this poison. Instead now I will feed him the bland diet of chicken and rice while I begin my research once again for a food food for him, and hope, and expect the issue to be resolved once he is off wellness.
Hi Pissedoff! Wanted to let you know that we've been having a similar problem with that dog food. I'm not sure if its the same lot number, but about a month ago my mom's dogs started having diarrhea. When I was home for a visit, my dog ate some of the food and she got it too. We didn't even think about it being the food until that. That was a month ago, we've had multiple tests run on the dogs and the vets(mine and hers) cannot find anything. At the same time, we're waiting on test results from the food. we've made a report to wellpet.
My wife bought a bag of Core Wellness about 2 weeks ago; we noticed vomitting and runny stool in less than a week. We have a Chesapeake Bay retriever and she is about 1.5 years old; never had this problem before. I got suspicious that it could be the Core food and did some research this morning; I found many dog owners had animals with the exact same symptons my dog had.
They claim there is a 7 day "break in" time for the dog to get aclimated to the food; I am not buying it. It is no coincidence that so many dogs have been negatively impacted by this food; I suspect there is a problem at the plant and this is the root cause.
To be clear my dog had not had any serious health issues yet. I plan to keep it that way by throwing out the Core; this is a reasnable response given the historical data we have on this food.
I've never heard of Wellness till recently I bought 2 packs. I bought the Senior version and mixed it with its Large Breed version. I can't remember the exact product names, but they both give issues to my 9 yo lab. A lot of pass gas and liquid diarrhoea. At first we suspected to be some treats or something else, but when we stopped the treats nothing seem to change.
Geee, I may have to dump the rest and continue with other brands as I don't want to witness a large vet fee!
She has no issues with Black Hawk, Canidae or Eukanabe, which she has ate for many months in the past. So, we'll probably stick with one of those.
I feel like I need to jump in on this! I have a miniature dachshund and black labrador retriever. For the longest time I had them both on Hill's Science Diet Sensitive Stomach. It was more or less for my doxie but the lab ate it too. Our doxie gets pukey, just randomly vomits a couple times, maybe once every couple of months. I worked at a veterinary hospital, had a couple doctors check him out and they all say he's as healthy as a horse. He did have a bout of esophagitis after being neutered due to either poor placement of the tracheal tube or minor aspiration of stomach acid. Either way, since his neuter he will randomly have a one time case of vomiting every few months then will be his happy go lucky self. I began growing increasingly aware of the ingredients in Hill's and decided to make the switch to Wellness Super 5 Mix Whitefish and Sweet Potato. BIG mistake. Caesar, our lil guy, got so incredibly sick. It began with more frequent vomiting, then while on a roadtrip to visit family he began vomiting and actually nearly collapsed (he literally turned blue on me). Scared the living day lights out of me!!! He was terribly gassy, so much to the point he could clear a room and his little tummy was so upset and tight. I'm talking blow out diarrhea. Something he has never had. He even messed in his kennel while I was at work, once again something he has never done. I was only assuming it was the change in foods, as in maybe I switched too quickly. About a week later, he was at about 90% back to normal but his stools just weren't the same. They were still soft and going multiple times daily, whereas they used to always be firm and on a schedule! Then, he became restless at night, constantly moving and changing positions. Then he began waking up in the early hours of the morning (I'm talking 4, 5 & 6 am) and vomiting. He'd puke a couple times, then be fine. So unlike him. So, we are now in the process of switching him back to TOTW Sierra Mtn. which is what he was on as a young pup and never ever had any complaints. But I will NEVER use Wellness again. My little guy has been so incredibly sick and the more research I do the more I'm finding similar situations.
Wellness dog food is not the same since wellpet bought them. I have feed them this food for years. Then one day my one dog ended up in the hospital for 2 days with pancreatitis. I bought the 60z can of lamb/sweet potato. When opening it up it looked different so I thought they changed the food. That is when she got sick. I called wellness and told them and they asked me all kinds of questions and was quiet. It turned out the food was made in their Utah plant and was processed different and I live in NY. If on the bottom of the can the writing is green it was processed out west and in black processed out east. I beg anyone that has problems with their babies from this food PLEASE report it to the FDA. Now I only feed my 4 poms Precise, Annameat and GO. They are doing great on this food the one doesn't even have ear problems anymore.
Welcome to the forum. I don't use Orijen, but I've always heard it was good. I've seen it on several lists of high quality foods. Apparently they used to believe too much fat would be a problem, but pretty recently found that most EPI dogs can tolerate more fat than they thought. Higher fat content can also help the dogs gain weight a little faster. But, as with everything, each dog is different. The only way you'll know for sure if she can handle that much fat is to try it. I'll just add the advice to make only 1 change at a time and wait at least 3 - 5 days before making another, so if there's a change in her condition you'll know what it was from. Many people use the log ( in the download section above) to keep good track things. Good luck, ask any other questions you may have, and hopefully someone who feeds Orijen will chime in.