If you don't know, the AKC is constantly lobbying the US government on behalf of dog lovers. The big one has to do with tightening regulation on commercial dog 'dealers' and getting rid of loopholes for brokers who buy dogs from breeders and resell them. Here's a quote "The most important changes include limiting the small breeder exemption to only those premises on which 3 or fewer breeding females of regulated species are kept, regardless of ownership. Previously, each person owning 3 or fewer breeding females and their breeding activity were exempt, regardless of how many breeding females were present on a single premises." So a 'breeder' could have 10 or 15 or even more breedable female dogs, and register them in groups of 3 under the names of different family members or friends, and they'd still be considered a 'small breeder'. Not any more! Hopefully this will be another blow for the puppy millers out there.
We have a pet store by where I live that gets puppies from puppy mills. A group of friends and myself tried to convinced them to rescue puppies instead of buying them for less from puppy mills. They would have none of it and sent us away. It's very hard to see puppies come from farms like that. But its even more sad that most people are so ignorant and don't even know what a puppy mill is... I hope they make a better law
If you go to akc.org you can see the proposed law they want to pass in my area.Its the 6th subject on the in the news about albuquerque. This ordinance has 62 pages. Some I agree with but most I don't. Some of the proposed laws are an annual fee of 150 per unaltered cat or dog over 6 months. A 150 litter permit witch expires 6 months.No intact pet can be on site unless to young to fix. When they are old enough to fix, it has to be done before they are sold. There are many more if you want to read at akc. Like I said I do agree with some, but is this getting out of control? Someone told me a law passed like this in denver, does anyone know about this?
halle, thanks for the info I had no idea. I do agree with most of the laws they are trying to pass here in our area. I hear albuquerque has tons of animals in the shelters, and that some even have to be shipped to Denver because there is not enough room to house them.
this is NOT the type of thing that should be passed into law. it is one more step towards taking away more freedoms. what right does the government have to tell someone they have to fix their dog? what right do they have to tell someone they can or cannot breed? the government is the people and no one here has the right to make those decisions for anyone else. just because you don't like the way someone does something does not give you the right to tell them they can't.
So next time I'm running low on cash I can just rob a bank? The police and the government have no right to tell me what to do? But to you a dog is merely a possession right? An animal that should have no rights? Nothing or no one to protect them? Go AKC!!!
So next time I'm running low on cash I can just rob a bank? The police and the government have no right to tell me what to do? But to you a dog is merely a possession right? An animal that should have no rights? Nothing or no one to protect them? Go AKC!!! your argument is not valid, if you breed your dog, or have 3 instead of 2 you are not hurting anyone nor taking that which is not yours. re-read my post, i specificly pointed out what they should not be regulating. you should be able to do anything that you want to as long as your actions do not step upon the rights of others to do the same. robbing a bank? you are taking away that right from others. breeding a dog you are not hurting me at all, that is your choice and it does not impact me. even if i do not like it, i DO NOT have the right to tell you not to
so are you for puppy mills then hoosgow?can't you see that the akc is trying to do a good thing here? you still have a choice - spay your dog or pay the fee. isn't america about having choices? i want to drive a car. in order to do so i have to pay one if the highest insurance rates in the country. do i like it ? no. am i going to infringe upon someones rights if i don't pay it? don't see how? if humans didn't seize every and any oppurtunity to get rich at the expense of others than maybe we wouldn't need laws like this. but i am certainly glad something is going to be done about it. these are the worst of the worst and its about time something can be done about it.
as far as who should be protecting your dog, that falls upon your shoulders the moment that you took on the responsibility. yes, they are legally possesions. granted, we become more attached to them then say a chair but you are right, that is what they are. saying that does not though lower their place in our lives.
akc is a private organization. if they define what a puppy mill is and will not let them join thsir organization that is thier choice. there are already animal cruelty laws on the books, so that is not what we are talking about. If a person wants to breed 3000 dogs a year, and can maintain them with in the standards that are already set by the cruelty laws then we do not have the right to say no even if we do not like it. spay your dog or pay a fine? why? that is not a choice, that is an enforced tax. why, if i just spent 1000 for a dog should i pay the government of all people to keep my dog whole? why should they even care? they have little things to take care of like national defense, foreign policy, infrastructure, my dog is none of their business. and no, they do not deserve an extra $150 because i do not want to spay my dog. that should not make me a criminal. they do not deserve $1 to not spay my dog. it is my dog, not yours, not theirs. it starts like this, you let them pass more laws, even the ones that you agree with that start eroding on your rights and pretty soon you will wake up and you will no longer have any freedoms at all. ask any german that was around in 1930. ask the russians. beware when they tell you they are doing it for the good of the p[eople. stand up and take responsibility for your selves, hold other people accoutable for their actions and stop relying on the government as a babysitter.
i think the akc should stand behind breeder fees. maybe that would eliminate joe schmo from breeding their pet and cut down on the accidental breedings that can occur from dogs that aren't spayed or neutered due to a man's ego or stupidity. the responsible breeders can pass the cost of their breeder fee onto the price of their puppies they are selling. maybe then the idiot woman in my neighborhood would've had her lab fixed and it wouldn't have sired 2 dozen puppies or have run away and sired god knows how many more litters of pups we don't need.
hoosgow, you say that the pets that you breed aren't the governments business, well then why do we have child abuse laws? Are the children that you breed none of the governments businesss, even when you have twenty kids that you are letting run around naked, and not taking care of. That is in sense what AKC is trying to eliminate, "dog abuse" such as what the puppy mills are doing. If you have that many litters, you aren't breeding the best to the best, so you are not breeding for quality, you are simply breeding to breed. Also, if you have that many litters, you can't take care of the puppies properly, and they will be unsoicilized and aggresive, which may result in dog bites later on. (Which happens a lot) Dog bites from a certain breed results in higher insurance if you own that breed, and it also gives the breed a bad name. This all results from over breeding. None of the governments business? You say that saftey from terriosts is the governemnts business? Why... So they can protect the people that live in the country, thats why. AKC is also trying to protect the dogs and people that live in this country.
silverdust, it appears to me that you are confusing the akc and the government. the akc is a private club and as such they decide who they let in and who they do not. that is their right. if someone does not like it they have the choice with no legal implications not to belong or they can start their own registry. the government however is responsible to all of the citizens even when those citizens do not like what eachothers actions. the government is responsible for protecting the rights of all people in the country even when you do not like or understand those rights
The akc needs to do something people are just breeding anything together, however at least in my area there are alot more ckc registered dogs for they are selling cheaper the papers I feel are useless and now everybody is mixing everything and anything together just to get a puppy..
"silverdust, it appears to me that you are confusing the akc and the government. the akc is a private club and as such they decide who they let in and who they do not." So as long as anything is private, evrything goes? Silverdust nailed this topic in the head. If there aren't any restrictions to limit the number breeders (also eliminate mass and irresponsible breedrs) there will be more animals in shelters - which means more govt money spent on maintaining these dogs. correct me if im wrong. Imagine the problems that are eliminated - no more puppy mills, sick dogs, dog attacks, maybe even no dog fighting. This is a good step forward.
In the end it just comes down to the subject of morals and ethics - just because the dogs that are bred are given the minimum requirements they need - any fat yuri just can't mass produce dogs - thats just wrong.