We dropped Percy off at the vets office on Wednesday to have him neutered. We were scheduled to pick him up this morning at 7AM. My husband just came home and informed me that Percy did not survive the operation. His cause of death was Arrhythmogenic Right Ventricular Cardiomyopathy - never heard of it.
No one even called us. How can a dog die from a simple neutering operation?
We got him exactly 2 weeks ago today. I feel like I helped in ending his life. I'm quite stunned right now and need some time to absorb this. My husband is not taking this too well. Please keep him in your thoughts.
Not to mention that we have the other puppy on the way, and today is the anniversary of my DH's fathers death.
I don't think I know how to feel at the moment. I really expected to see Percy coming through that door.
OMG, that is horrible! Didn't the vet's office even call you to say there was a problem? Ansy, I feel so bad for you. And I feel bad for Piper-I'm sure he will miss his buddy. With this puppy-try not to make a decision right on the spot. Look at the pup, send your ex home, and think about it a few days. You can't be expected to make a decision right now after all that has happened these past 2 weeks. And please don't blame yourself.
Ansy, so sorry to hear about that. How heartbreaking. Sounds like Percy had a severe heart problem and could not withstand the anesthesia. Right ventricular myopathy means the right ventricle (the one that goes to the lungs to oxygenate the blood is damaged and weak, causing backup to the lungs, worsening heart faulure. He would have probably showed some severe symptoms in a short time. But what a way to find out. I'm so sorry.
***Edited By: lalayla on 12/17/2004 9:08:56 AM*** Reason: sp
That is terrible! Why wouldn't they have called you?? It was not your fault, here is what I found in my medical dictionary (I work in a cancer research center).
Cardiomyopathy--disease of the myocardium. As a disease classification, the term is used in several different senses, but it is limited by the World Health Organization to: "Primary disease process of the heart muscle in absence of a known underlying etiology" when referring to idiopathic cardiomyopathy.
Sounds like there was something wrong with him to begin with that they didn't catch before. I'm so sorry, words are not adequate right now.
Ansy, I am so sorry to hear about Percy. It seems to be a normal reaction when someone we love dies to reflect back to our behavior. From what I have read, I think you did all that you could do, with Percy's best interest at heart. Please don't blame your self.
Ansy I am sorry to hear of your loss. Does your vet to the pre testing before surgery? Also I know at my vet you can pay alittle extra and they will keep the dog on a heart monitor. Did they have him on a monitor. I can't believe they didn't bother to call you. I would be on the phone with someone. This is horrible news.
Im sorry about what happened to you yet for some reason this sounds familar we took are dog to the vet to get spayed or nuetured she also died on the table she was about a year old they told us that she had died from something yet they couldnt tell us why or what it was about a year latter or so they told us it was a heart attack its been about three or four years since she died we just resently got another dog and a cat the cat was hit by a car about a week or two ago and are yard is to small for our dog he doesnt have enough room to run around so we have to give him away. we have had to many deaths in our family like my brother dying a year ago he was 14 so we cant handle another loss. Im sorry for your loss and I will pray for you every night. God Bless You and Your Family!
Oh my gosh Ansy....I'm so sorry for you and your family. I definitely would be raising some stink with the vet's office about not even receiving a phone call (and probably finding another vet). I will keep your family in my thoughts.
Ansy1, so sorry this has happened to you and you family, and especially to Percy. It sounds like a congenital condition that was probably worsened by going under anesthesia. I would think any creature put under anesthesia would be put on a heart monitor. How devastating for you and your husband, but don't blame yourselves. There's no way you could've prevented it. You took him out of a terrible situation, and he was able to feel the love you gave him, even if for only a short time. Again, so sorry this has happened :(
Yesterday evening when we got home, there was a message on our machine from the vets office asking them to call. It was near their closing time and we assumed it was just a reminder to come pick Percy up.
It turns out that they did try to call - but we didn't call them back. They didn't call this morning because my husband was there when they opened. He was so excited to get Percy back.
I am not aware of any pre-tests that they did, but DH didn't ask. He said the vet staff was very sympathetic about the whole situation.
For me personally, I haven't spent as much time with Percy as my husband had so I don't have the bond that he does. Piper has been my focus. None the less, Percy was an excellent dog for the 2 weeks we had him. I just keep wondering if the stress of moving him to our home could have made this happen. I wonder if leaving him alone would have let him live a longer life. It's like I want justification for what happened and I can't find it. I'm a psychologist - I'm supposed to have all the answers....and I don't.
I feel an extreme guilt for not calling them back. I let Percy's lifeless body lay in the vets office all night - alone. We have decided to have him cremated and his ashes placed in an urn. That is as close as we can keep him to Piper, who I'm sure, will go through some sort of grieving process. Percy was the only thing Piper trusted in.
I'm sure he is speaking out of pain, but my DH has already said there is no way he is having Piper neutered. I will give it some time and address that one at a later date.
***Edited By: Ansy1 on 12/17/2004 9:54:10 AM*** Reason: .
You aren't supposed to have all the answers, no one does. And there are situations where there simply IS NO answer. You didn't do anything wrong, you loved Percy, just because you didn't call back does not mean you didn't care, you said it was closing time, so it's not like they kept calling you and ignored them out of indifference to Percy's health. You didn't know, don't hold yourself accountable for anything, he was born with a defect from what it sounds like, and he may have just gotten sicker as he got older. You gave him a good life for the time he had with you. You and your family are in my prayers. Hang in there.
ansy, I'm very sorry to hear about your loss. Neutering and spayings are the most common surgeries that are done by veterinarians. It's pretty rare for dogs to suffer any problems during surgery, but it does happen. Any situation that requires your dog be put under anesthesia is pretty serious. He could have just as easily passed away from being put under anesthesia for something as simple as having his teeth cleaned.
The condition your dog described definitely sounds like a congenital defect. It's possible you would have noticed problems later on, many dogs that have this get short of breath after play, some even collapse because of lack of oxygen.
I'm not sure if you had pre-anesthetic testing done on Percy before he was put under, but you should consider it next time when you take your other dog in to be neutered. Hopefully your husband will have gotten over his grief.
Ansy and hubby- I am so sorry this happened!! I know things can and do go wrong for whatever reason, I don't know. You were just trying to help him and what happened was not at all your fault. No sense blaming yourself for what happened-that just makes you feel worse at a time when you already feel horrible. It's just too bad it had to happen so soon after you got him. He's probably up in doggie heaven looking down at you and saying "hey, that's the nice family that saved me. Wish I would've had them my whole life" and he's probably wagging his tail at you. I know this probably won't help much but it's all I can think of to say. So sorry it happened. I will have you guys in my thoughts and prayers.
Minniyar it's funny that you mentioned the out of breath thing. We did notice that with Percy when we played with him but thought he was just overly excited. The lab we had a few years ago could play and play and play.......and never really get tired......but Percy wasn't like that. After 5 or 10 minutes he would pant really hard. We just though it was excitement and fatigue from not being exposed to any play time at his previous home. We had no idea that something as simple as breathing could have alerted us to a potential problem.
I appreciate all of your comments.....I really do. I know I shouldn't blame myself, but sometimes it's hard not to wonder if you could have done something different.
Just last night we were talking about how we hoped by summer Piper would come around and we could take the dogs to the lake and just let them play in the water all day - like labs love to do.
If the pre-testing is not inclusive in the neutering then I'm sure it wasn't done. I didn't even know to ask about it. We just took him to the vet and said we wanted him neutered. Just when you think you're starting to really get educated about dogs - you find out that you're not.
I completely agree. You gave him a good home, although it may have been for a short time, it was probably the best time of his life. Remeber that you gave him that. Please don't blame yourself. Obviously there was a congenial defect and that is not something you would have known, nor is it anything you did. Maybe he would have lived longer if you had left him, but he would have never know what is was like to be happy. I truly believe he is waiting for you in Heaven. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say in Heaven, not doggie Heaven. Because I firmly believe our pets meet us on the other side when we die. I don't think they have their own special place, I think they are in Heaven watching you and waiting to be with you again. I'm sure he is happy and knows you did good by him.
Oh Ansy, I am so sorry. My newly adopted dog Max is at the Well Pet Clinic, getting neutered right now as I type this. I am soooooo worried now. I had to sign a bunch of stuff saying they are not responsible if something goes wrong. I am so scared for my boy. I am so terribly sorry for your loss. I can't believe they didn't call. Did they have your phone number? I see they did try to call, sorry.
***Edited By: wendy3249 on 12/17/2004 10:47:59 AM*** Reason: added something