I just replied to a topic about pets and stores and thought for a moment that this would be a good topic! Funny thing is my husband and I have been talking about what to do for a couple weeks now esp. since it is getting nice out! Can you vetrans at this give me some pointers on how to handle this type of situation?
We would like to take our chi's out with us to stores that allow pets, but we have not since in the past have had troubles with people and children not leaving the dog and us alone to enjoy our shopping time with eachother. We don't mind people asking to pet the dog, but it started to get out of hand when you want to take maybe 15 min in a store and it ends up being a hour because you have to let everyone touch the dog. Then if a child does not touch the dog properly and you say something the parents get offended and sometimes have gotten in our face like you have no right to tell my child what to do! Sometimes we want to just enjoy eachother and our pet in a store and we cant. I don't get it if someone had a child and people were non stop touching the child that would be wrong and they have a right to get offended, but when someone walks in with a dog, cat, bird any animal and you don't entertain everyone and let them pet till their heart is content you are a jerk. Well that has been our luck lately. So I hope I did not sound rude I don't want some rude comments, I just want some help on how to go places with our pets and shop and still be polite to people, but not smothered every second by people's hands touching us because we have a dog with us. (I carry my chi by my chest and yes people have just stuck their hands out and touched both of us it is uncomfortable.) I don't want to put the chi down either for people to pet she stays in my hands she is to small. HELP!
***Edited By: holidayzbliss on 5/23/2005 9:36:23 PM*** Reason: added
How did George Carlin put it? "Think of how dumb the average person is.. and then consider that half the population is even dumber than that."
Thus, I'd only take the dog with me if I wasnt' in a hurry, and I wasn't going to mind taking an hour or more to do what might normally take 15 minutes. The only surefire way to avoid getting irritated wtih people or having people get offended with you is to not take the dog.. because people are stupid hehe. With children even when I take Riddick out (and he's crazy about kids) I say to children, "You should always ask before petting a dog, it's just polite." If their parents get ill, oh well. My dog, my rules. They should have taught that polite rule before.
If you take your dog out and you find yoruself getting a little behind, try saying politely and cheerfully, "I'm sorry but we're running a little late. Say goodbye XXX (insert dog's name here!"
No one should be offended by that. I think you are 100 percent in the right. And min's quote from Carlin, I love it and it's so true, lol!!!
I have noticed the same thing, especially with my smaller dogs that people seem to think they have the right. First, I take them on a leash if at all possible and then when it gets to be too long or the person is being inconsiderate I just say, "Well, it was nice to meet you, but we're running late. Come on Ariel" (or whatever dog) and they come running with me. If people are mad after I leave, who cares?
i run into alot of unattended children at softball games, without fail i always tell them no they cant pet the dogs. *I* will not be responsible for someone elses child, period. and in stores, it just depends. on the kid, parents, and situation. i discriminate based soley on my gut feeling about the kid, parents, and situation. any kid screaming "doggie!!!!" and running full speed at us will NOT be permitted to get anywhere near my dogs. i will sidestep in fron tof them adn tigheten up the leash so fast it isnt funny. the kids who ask, and then hold out a hand, and LISTEN to my instructions, they are permitted to. a few reasons: i am not going to subject the dogs to any kid i think will make them uncomfortable. we have a 10 y/o so toddlers are like aliens to them, and that concerns me. also i am not going to let my dogs be the guinea pig that your kids practice "petting nice" on. and finally, and most important, i watch my dogs and their reactions. if i notice then shying away, being intimidated, etc, i put a stop to the cause of it immediately. i am, after all, their only defense to the world and they count on me. i dont have as much of a problem wiht adults as with kids and generally dont have to up and walk away from adults (although some i'd like to!!!)
as an aside, if you want to take the dogs for socialiazation but dont want to be accosted, try less busy times- weeknights insead of saturday afternoon, etc.
***Edited By: ESKIEGIRL on 5/24/2005 9:53:37 AM*** Reason: added
I bring Lucy about everywhere I can, because it is good for her socalization, but I will only let children pet her if there parents are there, I just dont' wanna get yelled at, I know my dog wouldn't bite, but I just couldn't care less about the kids, either. I just have Lucy sit there politely and she knows the command "no kiss".
With Ella, I have never had that problem at the store, but the park is another story. I rarely bring her to the park anymore because the parents out where I live just do not watch their kids very well it seems. I have taken Ella and Hunter to the park, and Hunter can manage because he is bigger, but without fail, Ella gets mobbed by like 10 kids all asking to hold her or telling me to 'put her down' and whatnot. My biggest pet peeve is sometimes they will literally try to just take her from my arms. I have no problems saying, 'No sweetie, you can't hold her, just pet her okay?' If they say, 'Put her down!' I say, 'No, I don't want to put her down right now' I agree that it can get pretty aggrevating. The reason it bugs me at the park is because I have to be watching my kids, and that's hard to do when I have all these other kids following me around to where I am watching them to make sure they don't harm my dog. Usually now, I always bring Hunter, but I will only bring Ella if my hubby comes. That way, if the kids get to really crowding me, I know that my hubby has his eye on our kids.
One nice thing about small dogs though, is that if you have one of those specially made dog purses (the kind where the sides are mesh that they can see through), if you are in a store, just zip it up completely so that no kids can mob you. And if they ask you to open the purse, just say, 'No, sorry, I can't take her out in the store'
***Edited By: Huntersmom on 5/24/2005 10:50:22 AM*** Reason: left out a word
I don't have that problem, either. When I go to the store with my dogs, people avoid us like the plague.
Unless we are in petsmart.
Anywhere else and people treat us like we are raising monsters just because they are pit bulls. It's something that peeves me to no end. Either that or we have guys who want to buy our dogs, mate their dog to one of ours, or even flat out fight them. I actually ran into a guy at petsmart that asked me how to make a pit bull mean. I just starting spouting profanities at him, and my bf had to drag me away.
Howver, we do get the occasional kid who wants to pet my dogs, and we let them. It's so nice to actually have a kid who isn't immediately scared of our dogs come up and ask us if they can pet our dogs that we don't mind standing there for an extra 10 mins. Our quick stops at petsmart to get food and treats never go under an hour, but we actually like it.
Plus, the added bonus is that usually those kid's parents ask us what kind of dogs we have and when we say pit bulls, they are surprised at how gentle and well-behaved they are. That's something that just makes my whole day.
Heather, that is awesome! That would be the best feeling to get to help your dogs against that steriotype. It reminds me of how this one time we went to the shelter, and they had TONS of pitties. And seriously, almost all of them were jumping against the gate wagging their tails and trying to lick the kids hands.
My suggestion to you is to get one of those pet carriers that can zip closed and the dog lays there but can see thru mesh or holes. That way no one knows he's there but you. How big is your chi? Pet edge has this really cute dark red carrier that I love, they have two sizes. I carry my poodle in a denim bag, its just a regular tote bag, I just walk along and most of the time no one notices, unless she is right in their face and moves. LOL I don't mind teaching kids to pet correctly, I usually tell them how good it is for them to always ask if they can pet her, because many times small dogs may bite.
Sometime ago at Petsmart, this woman was just in love with my Baby(tiny toy black poodle) She just loved how she looked and asked to hold her. I had Baby all fixed up with little red bows on her ears and a little sweater. So I let her hold her when she asked. Then she asked me if I would let her take my Baby to her boyfriend who was somewhere around the store so he could see her. I thought, what!!? I told her I'm sorry Baby is like family and I am not getting her out of my sight and took her away form her. Can you believe it?
At parks, I am sorry but I am just plain rude when I am walking my dogs and kids want to pet them. I am not about to let any kids with dirty hands pet my babies.
At the pet stores, I usually put my babies in the cart and I only let grown ups pet them if they ask.
***Edited By: alldogslover on 5/24/2005 2:22:31 PM*** Reason: .
Try going anywhere with 3 Great Danes. No matter where I go, a 5 minute trip ALWAYS ends up turning into a 2 hour deal. Where I live, Danes are not a dog you see very often. Especially 3 at one time!
I don't mind stopping and talking to people about them, because I figure it can't hurt to educate someone on the breed. A lot of people have BIG mis-conceptions about Danes, and I feel as a Dane owner, it's my job/duty to dispell (sp?) some of these mis-conceptions.
Although, on the other hand, it does get old hearing all of the same comments:
"They must eat a bag of food a day" "Where's their saddles?" "Who's walking who?" "Wow! Their poo must be like a horses!"
I could go on and on about the comments. But when you have a dog that's as big as a Dane, you learn to expect comments like that.
***Edited By: FinCat on 5/24/2005 2:48:21 PM*** Reason: xx
Puttin - my chi is 4lbs now, but will probably get about 6lbs. I am looking for a carrier I think that would be good I wanted to find a nice one. Thanks to everyone for all the help and support! I thought maybe I was the only one that had to go through this and that if I said something I would end up looking like a evil person! Sometimes I may carry my chi around, but I will know how to handle someone now! Hopefully it will work for us! Esp if we take one of our chins out that cant fit in a purse or bag. I was nervous on how to handle children running up and going crazy, but I can see now that I am not the only person dealing with this, and I have a right to let them know how to treat our babies!
That is a really cute bag! Thanks for sharing! I may just have to get one! It is not a bad price either! The ones at the pet store are that price or a little more and they are not as nice as that one! How cool! Thanks!
Hard for me to relate because I am just thrilled when anyone is willing to pet mine at all! Little Manson practically begs with his eyes for attention and people tend to move over so as to walk far away from him. The kid thing I can relate to, though. Like Minniyar said, if a child comes up to us and tries to pet my dog, I tell them that they must ask their parent first. Even when we were standing outside the capitol opposing BSL in my state, I would have the children wait until I saw for myself an OK from the parent. Many times in the past when I have had Missy in public (like at the air show or the state park) a child has run up and ROUGH-HOUSED with her without asking me or their parent. It always shocked me, thank god Missy was more than happy about it. But I would make the child stop and go ask their mom and I would also tell them about how they should always ask the owner because not all dogs are as friendly as Missy is, and they could get hurt jumping on strange dogs. ( I realize that's their parents' job, but I feel obligated...)