i agree ivy....... it is the way in which the animals are treated over there more then the fact that they are consumed. personally.....i cannot grasp eating dogs and cats. i would never do so knowingly. but i do love steak and chicken and bacon so i cant tell another culture that they cannot.
just hanging dogs from a tree and beating them to death because it releases endorphines which make the meat more tender is HORRIFIC !!!!!!!! and doesnt compare to how our cows and such are treated here in the states.
Honey …. Unfortunate I worked as an Electrician on site at a USDA slaughter house and saw first hand the horrors … made me very ill. And my Uncle owed a farm with live stock… so growing up .. I learned . =(
If anyone thinks the choice is EZ... try eating SOY/tofu in place of a steak... or Turkey on ThanksGiving!...
It is gross tasting... but I do sleep better.
***Edited By: IVYdragonN on 10/3/2005 11:49:19 PM*** Reason: addition to
I wanted to let everyone know that the animals shown in the link I provided are HORSES. There are Two slaughterhouses in the United States that are run for the sole purpose of slaughtering horses for meat to export to other countries. Just goes to show that Americans have a long way to go.
I am also a vegetarian. My decision was based after going to an auction when I was young the way those cows looked made me sick and then to find out people were buying them to eat because the USDA has low standards when it comes to meat. Also cows here are treated the same way dogs are treated overseas. They are crammed into small cages (veal) and stuffed into living quarters much smaller than they should be. My brother married a girl from China and we took a trip there last year. It made me sick, in one spot in the market they had dead live dogs hanging upside down as we do with cows in slaughter houses. However it is their custom and has been way before we have ever been around.
I was a vegitarian for 4 years. For those of you that say animals kill...you are right. Animals kill, but only with hunger. They do not torture their prey, and I do not care what culture you are, torturing another living creature is wrong, no matter what. We, as humans, CAN live without meat. It can be done. Keep that in mind.
It is also ridiculous to assume that every one of these animals is so horribly mistreated. Just like peta puts out the bad ones of cows when there are thousands of places that slaughter how they are supposed to,one video on a dog does nto mean they are all killed the same way. I never look at the videos as they are the norm because they are taken and shown to upset you,they are the worse of the worse. If it bothers you don't support that company but its usually just soem generic video.
I'm just going by what I know of. All the videos I have seen are horrible, and it doesn't matter HOW badly, they are treated, if they are treated badly at all it matters. Stuffing dogs in tiny cages IS considered torture, and that is how they are delivered. I know cows are not treated nearly as badly as those poor dogs. Dogs have saved us so many times. Saint bernards have been our best friends and rescued us when in trouble. this cannot be the way we repay them.
***Edited By: ShadowDog on 10/4/2005 12:19:56 PM*** Reason: add
Why is it that people bring up “it’s their custom or culture”?
Using it as an excuse so one can sleep better?
Again… Who gives a hoot if it has been done for centuries… the point IS … the Human Race is suppose to be evolving into a higher intelligence … and Should KNOW by now it’s Wrong to purposely cause harm to another living being. Especially ones that are with out defenses.
As far as the documented incidences on how dogs and cats are farmed for flesh … there is far more evidence that it IS the norm to : pack them into cages in abundance, break legs to fit into cages, : tie, beat, set on fire to release endorphins to help flavor the flesh for consumption. On and on …
See China has NO shame in the way they treat another living being.. so unlike us.. here in the USA… they don’t hide it… it’s right out in the open on the side of the road for all to see!!!!
No slaughter houses on big farms…. All right out in the glory of the beaming sun… or in the poring rain …. For in China… when ones purchases Flesh for consumption… they want to see the living being first… most often.
***Edited By: IVYdragonN on 10/4/2005 1:05:54 PM*** Reason: add
Cows and Pigs ARE treated just as bad here. There has been MANY cases of where so many animals are stuffed into the semi that hauls them to the slaughter house that there alot who are trampled to death and MANY more injured before they even get to the slaughter house. There are also many people who have reported that when they worked in the slaughter house that as they were butchering the cattle, sometimes they were not stunned enough and they were kicking and freaking out until they eventually died. Our "Hamburger" sometimes gets butchered alive! Chickens suffer HORRIBLY, are they killed humanely at all, NO. Because that takes too long. They are typically either held by the feet and have there head either smashed on the floor or some other hard object, other times they just chop it off while they are still alive. I disagree with the way that they treat their animals over there but we are most DEFINITELY not a society who should be critiquing others on humanity. Until we learn a little ourselves. And just because many of you do not think that cattle and swine are the same as dogs, does not mean they deserve to get treated any worse then a dog or cat. I am sooooo sick of hearing "they are dogs, they shouldn't be treated like cattle" God forbid you ever return to this earth as a cow yourself!
No, I didn't say it was right for cattle. When you compare them, the dogs probably are treated worse. At least with cattle and chickens, it is over quickly. If you have ever seen a chicken running around without it's head, it is a nerve/muscle reaction. The soul is already gone.
Cows and chickens are our friends as well. But when it all comes down to it, dogs have been there for us since the begining. They have helped/saved/rescued/worked/hunted for humans since we first started breeding them. Humans first started breeding them to be our friends and pets, not food.
Another fact that I don't think people realize is that after these cows/pigs/horses are loaded on trucks bound for slaughter, they don't arrive to food and water. Does anyone honestly believe that slaughterhouses feed these animals while they wait in line to be buchered. Some wait for days without food and water, and that is horrible cruelty no matter what.
Hindu's don't /worship/ cows. We respect them as you would a family pet. It is taboo to kill a cow, as it is to kill a dog or cat.
"Those Hindus who do eat meat predominantly abstain from beef, some even avoid the usage of leather products. This is because the largely pastoral Vedic people and subsequent generations relied so heavily on the cow for dairy products, tilling of fields and fuel for fertiliser that its status as a 'caretaker' led to identifying it as an almost maternal figure (so the term gau mata). While Hindus do not worship the cow, it still holds an honoured place in Hindu society."-Wikopedia
I didn't read though all the comments, so please forgive me if this has been mentioned.
Even though I don't agree with eating dog meat, and I I now some of the comments have said hat it is China's custom/and/or culture , odo so, I still have to ask.
Is it also their custom to make the dogs suffer by tieing the animals' front legs in an unnatural position and thenhaning them them until they die, because it's supposed to make the meat more tender?
received a newsletter in the mail several years ago from the ASPCA that showed horrible graphics of the dogs hanging in a local market and struggling to no avail to get free.
Aside from sickening me, it brought me to tears knowing what theses these poor dogs, many of them puppies, had to endure until they were finally released by death. At least the animals that are used for food in the U.S. and in Canda are not tortured in such inhmane ways.