I neeed help! Me and my husband recently (7 days ago) adpoted THREE pomeranian mix puppy sisters, and we finally took the advice of the vet and are kitchen training and crate training at night. Our kitchen is quite small so my first question is how many hours a day should I sit in there with them to keep them happy and quiet? Since they used to have free run of the house (I cleaned 35 accidents in five days, ARGH!) they just want out. The littlest, Spohie, barks when she can't come out or when she can see us on the couch through the baby gates! We only play with them in the kitchen or on back deck, when it's not below freezing. Will they be scarred if I'm not in there hours and hours a day? Secondly, Sophie's barking is starting to hurt my 2yr old ears. She has a high pitched whine/shriek! I've tried sparying water in her face and she just licked it. I've tried tapping the nose And even resorting to bopping her on the nose with a fuzzy glove. Nothing has worked except saying "Hush and Spohie No" five million times and then her eventually getting bored and sleeping. Am I making any progress? Luckily the potty training aspect is going better. They pee and poo on back deck and only on paper in kitchen in between their "every 45 minute" potty breaks. Please help! I am going nuts and my daughter is starting to dislike her favorite pet.
What ever possessed you to adopt not one but THREE puppies at the same time? And with a 2 year old child at home. Your statement that your kid is "starting to dislike her favorite pet" says a lot. This was a bad decision on your part. I would try to return two of the pups and try to deal with just one. When that one is reliably trained, THEN think about adopting a second.
Perhaps 3 puppies is a little too much, but if you insist on keeping all three, perhaps you should stick with straight crate training, instead of "kitchen training".
I kept my puppy on a very strict housebreaking schedule, and plus it kept me from worrying if he would get into anything or hurt himself or just pee/poop where i couldn't see him. I would keep him in his crate, and take him out every hour or so. After I took him out, I would allow him a few minutes of supervised free time, and then back into his cage he'd go. This was at 2 months, and as he got older I'd increase both his time in the crate and free time. Now, at 6 months, I can leave him loose in my room with the door closed, without having to worry about any major accidents.
With 3 puppies, you should get 3 separate crates for each one, and perhaps you can cover the crates with sheets or blankets to keep them from seeing you, thus keeping them from barking.
IMO, I think crate training is such a stress free way of housebreaking. You know where the dog is, and you know it's not gonna be doing things that you don't want it to do.
To answer the HOT question about why I adopted all three sisters goes like this. We had a Pom named Lola who was my daughter's dog but she was raised as an only dog with no small children and no noise. I was working long hours so you can see where this is going. TIMID, frail, oh so loving but if you clapped she'd squat and pee from fear. The kicker is Lola loves my mother more than me (retired and quiet). So during Thanksgiving vacation we drove to my mom's who has a 13 yr old poodle with ailing health and surprised her with Lola who went berserk over my mom. So my daughter Alexis is running around calling Lola. We located some pups for a semi reasonable price we went to see them. We were horrified at their home situation. They were in a chicken wire concrete "den" putting it nicely. Here in the Seattle area it has been at 32 degrees with winter storm warnings and I felt badly. Plus every female dog there had saggy nips like they were all being bred from this tiny cement yard for cash, not quite the "neighbor dog got into our fence ane made puppies" story we were told. At 2 months they weren't even being fed a puppy food it was some kind of adult Purina formula. Well my mother in law had mentioned possibly getting one also, we figured as long and me and ALex were there we'd grab hers for her too. The owners were more interested in our cash than if we were weirdo's and whatnot. Alexis picked out Sophie, the runt, who cries. And at the last minute my mother-in-law bailed. So now I am juggling a fragile relationship with husbands mom and lots of cratures. I am trying to make the best of an "Interesting" situation.
You don't have to give up the puppies. I raised two puppies at one time while I was pregnant. I had just purchased a puppy when one day I heard crying at my door. It was another puppy. My husband begged for me to let him keep it. I felt bad for the puppy and so I kept him. Anyway, after figuring out that crate training would be best for my pups life got a little bit better. Buy 3 crates. Keep them in the crate when you cannot actively supervise them. Cover the crate with a blanket so they cannot see you. If they whine and cry tap the crate with your shoe and say "stop." Do not hit your dog on the nose or anywhere else. Hitting creates fear not respect. Good luck.
Never mind hounds He/she can be very rude sometimes.
First off get 3 crates.This can be their schedule.Morning:Take all outside to go potty,then feed them,take them back out 15 minutes later.Bring them inside and they need to be on a 6 foot leash at all times.If you cant watch them put them in a crate.You dont have to take them all out at the smae times on leash.Take them all out every 2 hours.Then in the afternoon feed them then take them out 15 minutes later.Keep taking them out ever 2 hours put them in their crate for 2 or 3 hours everyday and take them out and let them play.They NEVER get free run of the house EVER!!! When they are out and not on a leash then put them in a room with supervision and gates/doors shut. feed them at around 7:00 and take them out 15 minutes later.Then take them out once more before bedtime.
Most dogs will not pee/poop where they sleep.Make sure that the crate is not to big or to small.The pet store will be able to help you.they should be able to stand up,turn around and lay down but should not be able to run in it.Only lay,stand and turn around.
If they bark in the cage get white vinagar and sit there by the cage if they start whining alot spary them and tell the quiet.Same with barking anytime you dont want them to. that will teach them very fast,you will be able to just sit the vinagr in front of the cage and them not bark.
Hi there. I got a pom puppy a month ago also. I am sorry you are having difficulties. First of all they are still very clingy and maybe needing a bit more attention [I know it's hard to devote a lot of time to them]. I have been reading pom books and it said that the puppies should only be in their crates up to four or five hours a day.. and should be out a lot so really spend a bit more time with them and try to purposely wear them out by running around with them [outside if possible] and playing lots of games with their toys. They are still very young. I got a dvd that teaches a lot [puppysmarts] and it teaches that ignoring them is a great tool. Sometimes you have to let them bark and cry but sometimes they really do need attention or to go outside .. they need to burn energy and if one starts it off then so will the other one so i can understand it is hard. Get your daughter to play with them and burn some puppy energy. Shouting does not achieve anything, it only makes it worse. try teaching them to sit and obedience classes can also help . my pup is 3 mo's old and sits so just give it a bit of time .. anymore questions then contact me i hope i helped and good luck to you and your family !
Not rude - realistic. This is a set-up for disaster and I seriously doubt this person has the ability or the desire to do what it would take to solve the problems. Considering the fact that these pups came from what appears to be a less than responsible "breeder" it is more complicated than usual. Some of you people really seem to live in la-la land and believe that everyone is capable of dealing with all dog issues. Clearly, you have not worked in rescue.
By the way, cocker...that statement about dogs not soiling their sleeping area ONLY is true if the dogs have been socalized and raised appropriately. These pups have been raised where they were able to "go" wherever they felt like it. Please, if you don't know what you are talking about, don't offer bad advice, because it only makes things worse
***Edited By: Houndz2000 on 11/30/2005 7:39:44 AM*** Reason: Add
I have to agree. I have recently adopted a 14 week old pom/ poodle cross and have small children and I am finding it difficult. How on earth will you manage with 3?
Crate training is a great option if your pups will keep it clean. My pup needs to go out every hour, plus after eating. She still goes out once at night. I agree that you are probably going to need 3 crates and try to keep them small enough that the pups can just turn around.
One problem with adopting more than one pup at a time is that they don't bond properly with owners and will not be interested in their humans as much as they should be. Maybe you could find a good home for one or two of the pups so that you could focus on your favorite pup to make sure it is well socialised and happy.
Actually Houndz2000 I work in rescue. I have housebroken old dogs, young dogs, puppy mill dogs, pet store dogs, dumped dogs, you name it. I have also had more than one rescue dog at a time and they all lived indoors. It takes time and a lot of patience. If she is willing to work hard and be patient she can be successful. I have no idea what she is capable of doing or what she is willing to do so it's not our place to say that she cannot take care of these animals. She came here for advice and we gave it to her. Telling her she is nuts for taking on three puppies is rude. I am sure she knows by now that she did not make the wisest decision. I think she should at least give it one more try and get 3 crates.
They could be barking because they are looking for attention or because they are bored, IMO. Maybe if you up there play time a little bit they will sleep when you leave them. Try play that involved a lot of running and excitement because it will tire them out. You did say it was cold...is it too cold for a walk? I know after a long walk my two dogs sleep for a few hours. ;) Also, I dont know if this will work...just a suggestion. They are probably barking because they want attention. When they bark, you respond by giving them attention--even if it means yelling at them to quiet down. Either way, they're getting attention. Maybe you could try saying "NO BARKING" or "HUSH" or whatever you want to say, after the first bark and then that's it. No more attention from anyone until they quiet down...don't even look at them. They're trying to get your attention and it's working when they bark.
Scareydog, I have worked in rescue for more years than you have probably been alive, so, please, don't insinuate that I have little experience. Living in one of the top puppymill states in the country gives me MORE than a little experience in caring for dogs who have been raised in less than good circumstances.
I've cared for old dogs, young dogs, sick dogs, well dogs, purebreds, mutts, abused dogs, dogs who had been left tied in the yard all their lives, dogs who lived in a crate all their lives, dogs who had been abused and neglected.
This person made a mistake. Plain and simple. If she is not 100% committed to training these pups (and that does not mean leaving them in crates all the time, either) this situation is only going to go from bad to worse. She also has a small child that is at the stage where they still require a lot of hands-on care.
I stand by my original suggestion. Find new homes for two of the pups. Work on training one, THEN, and only then, think about another.
***Edited By: Houndz2000 on 11/30/2005 10:44:19 AM*** Reason: Add
I commend you for adopting these 3 poms. As a pom lover (I have 5 all house broken), it is possible but it will be harder to do with 3 all at once. This is what has worked for me and it may or may not be an alternative to you. I have a sunroom and I added a puppy door to the door that goes to the back yard. I sectioned off a part of the back yard..they still have plenty of yard for themselves. I started with one pom...tought her how to go in and out of the sun room. I put a puppy pad on the floor by the door to go when she could not quiet jump out the puppy door. I would go outside and call her and she would make every effort to jump through until she got it. Dogs prefer to be outside..yes even at 20 degrees...poms have the furr and can tolerate the cold. Anyway I tought one pom and then got another and she followed the first and so on. Now they never potty in the sunroom..unless its Thundering really bad like two nights ago. I made sure my sectioned part of the yard is very secure so they cant get out (one is a digger and loves to dig). I have Shady areas for them to rest in the hot summer and of course they come in and out of the sun room where there is a/c or heat. I love to watch them out my kitchen window playing tug-o-war with their toys, chase etc. they definatelly get their energy out and then come inside to rest. Im very fortunate that all 5 poms get along well and can be together. I do not use crates and never have...this works for me but I did do it one pom at a time...three at once may be harder. Then when Im cooking or hanging out, I keep one or two with me in the kitchen or in the living room. Once potty trained its alot easier to let them run around in the house. Anyway..this worked for me and its just a suggestion. Good luck with your pups and post pictures when you can.
Houndz, I would like you to point out where I said or insinuated that you had very little experience in rescue. I don't know you so how could I make that statement. Might I add you are the one who said "Some of you people really seem to live in la-la land and believe that everyone is capable of dealing with all dog issues. Clearly, you have not worked in rescue." I only saw fit to respond that I too rescue dogs and have housebroken a pretty bad bunch. I don't think there is anything significantly special about me so if I can do it I don't see why she can't. It takes time, patience, and dedication. Who are you to say she is not willing to try? You don't know her or anything about her. If you can housebreak all kinds of dogs why can't she? Are you so special that no one else can do what you do? I was pregnant when I had to housebreak two stubborn puppies and I made it. If you are dedicated and determined it can happen.
I don't think a lot of people want to do it or have the patience BUT you are not a psychic. We don't know what she can do. Give the person the benefit of the doubt. Give her the advice on how to be successful and see how it goes from there. She came for advice let's give it to her and wish her the best. I am sure she knows she can give up the dogs. Many people know the easy way out or you wouldn't have so many dogs to rescue.
First off I'd like to start by saying Thanks for all the positive feedback. Anyone with a heart (or children) can understand why I did what I did. Having been a mom now for two years has taught me the harder thing and the right thing to do are usually the same. I would like critics to know that I have dedicated all day/night long for the last week and half and will continue to do so. These puppies are well adjusted considering, and they are all well bonded. My ONLY problem is the barking. We have one large (expenise, Argh!) crate that has a divider so that the bigger they get the larger we make it, and they are quite cozy inside. My vet has told me to kitchen train them, that is why they are secluded for now until they have better grasp of where they potty and better bladder control. I have chosen not to crate them seperatley during the day so they have free run of the completely papered kitchen and they can run off energy and they also see us and our Maine coon, and since they are in the hub of the house they hear all sounds and see the food but understand it's not theirs. I am actually quite impressed with them, we are just struggling with the one area. My vet offered me a stern suggestion yesterday that if we ignore it they will stop. She has told me to IGNORE all of it. Easier said than done, but for the time being we will do so. I am finding that if I put my Ipod on the stereo thingy (technical word for it) they clam down as well. They like Elvis Presley :) Again, thanks for the good info. I will keep most of it in mind and disregard the negatives from the people who should have been hugged more as children. If I can figure out how to load pictures I will take some of the ladies today!
Sounds like the dogs are hard work. Don't give them away. You can do it. I bought 2 poma-poos this weekend. The best decision ever. My mom-in-law wants to take one but I won't let her. Everyone loves them. I wonder what a poma-poo looks like as an adult.