My girl had it done last December. Honestly the only walking I allowed her to do was the poopie breaks she needed. Leashed, I would bring her outside. That was plenty of movement for her while she was still healing. I did not do walks down the block till about 6 -7 weeks. Just very short. Her little walks in the yard usually lasted about 5-10 minutes. She was bandaged the first week, bandage came off second week, we e-collared her so's no messing with stitches. And sure there were days she would use it more than other days. By about 6 weeks she would once in awhile favorite that leg. By about 8 weeks, you would never know she had had surgery. Just make sure your dog is not jumping around, I know hard to do. I still carry my girl up and down the stairs, I don't want her knocking her knee on any steps.
The only walking he does is 3 leashed and slow paced walks a day. His surgeon gave me a Physical Therapy schedule and based on his progress the walks gets lengthened by a minute every few days.
At 3 weeks we are up to about 13 minutes each walk/crawl. Sometimes he feels like it, sometimes he doesn't! If we do let him out of the yard, we definitely use the belly strap to even further slow down the pace!
In the house he is confined to an X-pen set up to just give him enough room to get out of his bed and take a few steps to his water bowl.
I guess it's just a normal part of healing - some good days, some sore days!
I have noticed that most of his soreness is when he initially gets up from lying down. Maybe just stiffness?
Yeah, 3 weeks is still pretty early on. I know someone else that her poodle would not use the leg at all even a couple months after. They had to cast the oposite leg to get her to use the other. Sounds like yours is coming along fine. Its normal to use it one day a bit then the next it may be sore and less usage. Sounds like yours is doing alright. Oh might be a good idea to suppliment with glucosamine-chondroitant. I have been doing that since a few weeks before Lillys surgery.
I'm a nervous wreck over this whole thing. I'm blaming the Surgeon for making me crazy! All he could say is "you have to keep him calm or else you'll be back here and we'll have to start from scratch. He will go through more pain and you will have to PAY again."
I get his point clear enough, just wish he had a better way of saying it.
He is as calm as we can keep him. When someone comes in he does stand on his hind legs and that is making me nuts! We're working on that, but I think trying to calm him sometimes makes him worse. Now when my hubby and kids come in they're actually getting down on their knees with a treat to keep him down. Can you imagine? We're certifiable in this house! LOL
I'm sure there are worse things I could be going through with him but this is surely the biggest surgery I've ever gone through with a pet.
Do you mind if I ask what was the severity of the operation? Was it a grade 3 or 4 or??? Also, what state are you located in and how much was the cost?
I know the financial stuff is really personal so I apologize if I offended you by asking and I understand if you don't want to say. The reason I asked is because I may be facing the same procedure with one of my little ones.
Otherwise, it sounds like your little baby is doing okay. I've read a lot about it and it's always very positive information. Dogs can go their whole lives without any major issues as long as the leg is taken care of.
Chandler was a grade 3 caused by trauma. We were walking and he went to bark at a bicycle and as he did, his leg stayed and he went the other way! He was standing in gravel at the time. Just a split second that I wish never happened.
Took him to my regular vet immediately because he could not even support himself on the leg. I though it was broken but when his vet started feeling it only took him a second to realized the knee cap was totally dislocated. We brought him back the next day to be anesthesized so they could x-ray and manipulate the joint - he thought his ACL was also torn. I was barely home when he called and said - "I'm giving you two orthopaedic surgeons to call, whichever one can do him the soonest is the one we are going to use!" I immediately called the first surgeon, Dr. Chris Hunt in Fairfield NJ. I explained the situation to the receptionist, this was a Friday, and they scheduled the surgery for 8AM that Monday.
I also questioned Dr. Hunt's office on how many of these procedures does he do? They said 5-6 a week! Doesn't always mean they do them well, but hey practice makes perfect. He is in his early 50's and from Australia and has been in his practice in NJ for over 20 years. I did call the second surgeon that my vet had recommended and he also could have done the surgery on Monday, but when asking the same question I was told he does around 5 a month! I went with the more experienced surgeon.
Now, the big one! I have to admit I didn't even ask about the price when I called. Didn't matter - I would have sold the car, house, husband, well you get the idea!
When we brought Chan in Monday at 8am and it was time to leave they require you leave an 80% deposit. It was a shock!
The original Vet bill for the x-ray under anesthesia and pain medication for the weekend was $200.00.
The Orthopaedic Surgeons fee was $2800.00.
Grand Total - $3,000.00
Oh, almost forgot, he had the "big" version of the surgery. New groove made for the knee cap and the tibia was cut and pinned. He explained that the ligament that holds the knee cap in place had been stretched due to the injury/luxating patella and they find by cutting and pinning the tibia they have a stronger hold. Almost forgot, 30% of the cases the pin will migrate after surgery and have to be removed. That would be an additional expense! I did recontact my Vet and he agreed about the pinning. I trust him with Chandler so I agreed.
So we miss a few summer vacations - who cares - everyone agreed Chandler is worth anything to all of us. My son said we would put him on the patio in a sand box this summer and serve margaritas - who needs a vacation!
My original vet bill is so low because my daughter works there part-time. She leaves for Vet School this September and is strongly considering doing a specialty in Orthopaedics! Can't say we blame her!
Yeah, that's about what I've been told around here too. Around $2500 per leg. For me it wasn't a surprise though. I've never told anyone on this forum about this before because I didn't want to get ridiculed for it but, I adopted a bulldog from a breeder who told me she had loose patellas and would need special care for it. I thought people would tell me I was a fool. Someone else took her before I did and had her for a couple months before they decided they didn't want to deal with it and they returned her to him. Breeders have so many animals in their care that we thought she wouldn't be in the best care with him, and he agreed. Also, there are people who want a bulldog but don't want to pay for one and we thought how horrible it would be if someone would adopt her for the wrong reasons and then neglect to give her the proper care or even worse, have her P.T.S. to avoid the costs. We wanted to take her in and give her the best home possible and I did that knowing it would wind up costing a mint. So, there ya have it. We had to wait until she was old enough because they said the leg will continue to change as she grows. I'm going to take her to a surgeon in the next few months or so. I agree with you about saying they are worth it. Thanks for the info.
My girl was 14 months old when she had her surgery. It cost $1200 the day of surgery and probably $3-4oo more in xrays and meds. I am in California. You'd think it were more. She had her groove deepened and the tendon stitched too. Hers was trauma too, from having a dog lung at her. But being it happened, it may have happened sometime in the future anyways. Her knee cap popped out and even with anti-inflamitories for 10 days, it still popped out a dozen times a day if not more. I knew how to pop it back in.
You think your family is nutty, I brought Lilly into my room instead of crating her. She knew not to jump around on my bed. I just happened to be off work a month. So I vegged with her. I gained some weight tooo. That sucks. But it kept her from jumping around. Maybe an ex-pen is not a good idea, because your can stand. Use a crate he can't jump up in.
Oh, he can't be in a crate! Never had to use it and when the old groomer used one he went NUTS! Digging at the front of it like a "wild man"!
Now is definitely not the right time to try and crate train him, so I settled for the X-pen.
I had mentioned to the surgeon, when we went back to have the sutures removed, that he stands up on his hind legs. He said to try our best to stop it but our biggest fear would be "momentum". Any running, jumping at a fast pace.
Who knows anymore, I'm just trying to do the best I can.
Chandler also sleeps in bed with me. When I mentioned that to his surgeon he thought perhaps he should be on the floor for the time being. Well I knew that would never happen, so my bed is now a giant playpen - king size playpen mind you! I pushed the one side up against the wall and then lined it with pillows. The headboard is also squeezed up against a wall. That left the bottom and whole other side. The bottom is lined with king sized pillows held up by the footboard and chairs behind them to make them strong enough. Then I took a twin size mattress from the spare room, turned it on its side and put it along the other side. That too is held strong with a chair.
I have to use the chair to get in and out of my own bed! It's not too much fun in the middle of the night when I get up to go to the bathroom.
Chan never ever jumped off the bed, but now would not be the time to risk it so this was safe for him. I really have to take pictures!
What you have not taken pictures. LOL I have a picture of Lilly the first day, with a bandage and a Xmas tree cut out of the same bandage stuff layed on top of it. You sound like you care alot. Hows your babie doing now. Hey did they bandage your dog the first week? I found that to be very helpful.
No, I didn't take any pictures! I think the image will be etched in my mind forever.
Chandler was not bandaged - just his poor little shaved (pink)leg and alot of stitches. I don't know they're reasoning behind not covering it, although he never tried to bite at it. He was such a good boy! Once in awhile he would give it a few licks!
He seems to be doing better. He is alot more Chan then he was last week! Our walks have increased to about 14 minutes at a clip! (we do alot of that walking in the house where there are no distractions). Wow, we're moving now! LOL
He still seems stiff went he gets up, but I was talking to my son's physical therapist last week and he felt that was perfectly normal. He actually put him through a few "range of motion" tests and he was amazed!
Since the end of August my son has had 2 shoulder surgeries and then Chan's accident. Sometimes I have nightmares about ice packs, stitches, pain meds, physical therapy, etc.! LOL
My almost 9 year old chihuahua was diagnosed w/luxating patella yesterday. We are in southern california (LA),does anyone here have a good orthopedic specialist in the area they recommend? I want to make sure I get a few opinions/treatment options before I move forward with anything.
Hello this is "Tammy" the mini-poodle....I would like to know if I can ever be normal after knee-cap surgery. I had knee-cap surgery done on my lucky-left foot's knee-cap. I am an active 08year girl. My owner bought doggie steps for the BIG bed in the master-bedroom for when I am able to go upstairs again. Right now I am confined to the main floor at home. I am just past week#08 & had an X-ray "recheck". My three pins are in place, phew! My question to previous doggiepals who have had this surgery is; will I ever be able to jump like I used to before this knee-cap surgery? I really miss sleeping on the big bed. I know I have to ask my Vet for this but am curious as to: will I be able to do what I did before this surgery? In other words....will my activity level be this slow all of my life.
I am fostering a Maltipoo with stage 4 luxating patellas in both back legs. I have several different quotes for costs of the surgery: $10,000, $2400, and $300. I would love to pay only $300 but I am leary of going with the cheapest option so am taking her to one more vet to get an estimate. She is such a lap dog that keeping her still should be fairly easy since all she wants to do anyhow is sit in my lap. Since I am retired, I can sit and hold her all day long for months!
Hi, I have a 9 mo old mixed breed puppy that was diagnosed this pst Friday. My hubby took him for the x-rays. Unfortunately, I was not able to be there myself. I am not sure exactly what degree he is, but from what I've read it sounds like 2. Vet believes its was in his genes, not trama. Our puppy Irie, is a heniz 57 and weighs about 50 pds. Favors a German Shep, Rotweiler, Irish Setter mix. Yeah a lot of mixes, I know. We got him from a no kill animal shelter. We do know someone found the puppy at 4 wks being thrown away in a trash bin, so maybe there could have been trama, but Irie just started showing signs of limping about a month ago. He's a super packed ball of energy. Hard to believe he has this problem. Our vet is older, but very wise. He knew w/o x-rays what was wrong w/ Irie, but sent us to another vet to get the x-rays. Unfortunately, our vet can not perform the surgery. We were told by one vet it would be $850-$1200 per leg (Irie needs both back legs operated on). I was just besides myself when I heard last wk. It was so heartbreaking and overwhelming. I have a few questions for those of you out there with experience.
1) Is there more than one type of surgery for this problem? If so, in your opinion what is the best option to take?
2)How much do you think a person should be paying? I know this won't be cheap, but at the same time its expensive. Esp in times like these.
3)My dog is SUPER active, how will this effect him down the line? Do you know a difference in your dog after he healed from the surgery?
4)What are the chances of it recurring or other problems setting in later down the line?
Thank you for any support you can provide. Like, I mentioned its just been a shock to us, but we love our puppy and believe surgery will help him. IrieMon!
We just got an 8 month old Boyken Spaniel with a grade 2-3 luxating patella on the back drivers side leg. She only occasionally hops on it so I assume the pain is not that bad. I have her scheduled with our local Louisiana vet for January and the total of her surgery will only be 500.00! I know that they will be making her trochlear groove deeper and possibly something with her femur but total with anesthesia will still only be 500.00. He is a local trusted vet that does multiple patella surgeries a week.