"Sure divorce happens, but I think the live in boyfriend/girlfriend situation surely has much more of a failure rate and quicker, at that age. I know life changes happen all thru life, but you cannot deny that there is much more of that that goes on in the 20's than say someone in their 40's and older, overall."
Sure relationships end. Actually stastically speaking live in boyfriend/girlfriend relationships tend to end most often in breakup then marriage at any age, not just with the 20 somethings. My point was just because the relationship ends doesn't mean the one most responsible for the pet wouldn't take it with them. A lot of dogs are one person pets
"A child may be able to take good care of a pet, but I would never put a dog into a home where the child would have sole responsibility of it's care. Never."
I wouldn't expect you to. At ten I was a very responsible child for my age. Even then my parents wouldn't have bought me a purebred dog with champion lines. My dog was a mixed and would've ended up in the shelter had we not taken him in. I use to fondly call him my "pound puppy". A reference to a cartoon that was part of my childhood. Anyhoo, I may have been responsible for a lot of his care, but ultimately he was owned by my parents since they were the adults. They paid for his vet care and made sure I did all my chores accordingly so that he was taken care of. But I didn't see it as a chore, I was taken care of someone I loved. I got a job in my teens to pay for his medical care AFTER my parents divorced and funds were tight with my mother.
"Yes people get married and have children later too. I know it's not unheard of for someone to have a baby in their 40's. But the key word in all this is MAJORITY."
When you base your theories on the "majority" or what you previous to be the "majority" is when you discrimating. I hope you little reference to some study regarding race when it comes to who is the best caretaker for a dog, doesn't influence your placement for your puppies as well. If so you have a lot more to worry about then just your pups : /
Luvmydoxys, you know I respect you a great deal. In your defense, I believe you are the judge of character when placing -your- pride and joys. That is your decision. When I eventually become a breeder, i'm sure I will be very selective and picky about where I send mine out into the world as well.
"I am sure there are capable great dog owners in their 20's. But I do believe that school, changing jobs, stable relationships, and permanent residency in their homes is more so of an issue than in the latter age group "
Isnt that also a likely for other people? Older people may or may not have kids... who do you think would be taken care of first?
I'm 21. I got Kiba when I was 18. Yes I live with my parent. I saved up my money and am the only one that takes care of her. In Jan I got Stryder. Just because I may or may not go out alot shouldnt be really looked at how well the dogs are taken care of.
You'd think that someone younger, would be a good owner,... might know alot of people to socialize with, be able to take the dogs out and about.
So yeah, I dont think you should discriminate people about their age.
I really think you need to base your decision on the people not their age. If you are concerned about what will happen to the dog in the event of a break-up put something in your contract.
I was 19 when I bought Ruffian, and left my boyfriend at the time because he said get rid of the dog or leave. HYe knew I was getting her but she wasn't a lab, I wanted something small that if I had to leave could come with me. So I left him, 2 year relationship, the dog was more important to me. I was with someone else for 7 years after that, during which time we got Tonka, I took them both when I left. He wanted Tonka I said no, he is not a responcible pet owner, and they are my dogs, I would not put Tonks in that cituation. I refuse to move anywhere without them, and my current boyfriend knows this. Infact before we decided to move in together his cat had to accept the dogs or else we would have waited, thankfully they get along,LOL. Young people can be responcible, just as older people can be unresponcible.
I'm 23. I have 6 animals. I live with my boyfriend who is 21. We have PLENTY of money. He just bought a 06' Honda Civic and paid with cash because it was money he earned working his butt off. We have been a couple since Oct 99'. Living together since Nov 02'. We are currently saving up to buy a house.
Our oldest animal is about to turn 4. Our youngest, 9 months.
It can be quite irratating when people judge you based solely on your appearance because you "look young". I am tired of defending my relationship because people say young love never lasts and defending out money because we started with nothing and now we are comfortable, he MUST be a drug dealer *rolls eyes*. Our decisions are questioned because apparently, our age is a handicap and we must be idiots who can't figure things out and come to our own conclusions.
I had to BEG for this apartment because my landlord out right told me he doesn't like to rent to "young people". That is against the law. You can't not rent to somebody because of a bs reason like that.
So, like I said...don't go into the "what if"s. Go by the individual and the facts. A questionable person is a questionable person. No need to attach age, race, gender etc... period.
Oh, I would just like to point out that sometimes their young age may even work to their advantage. You see how many members we have that are in that age demographic. I know I like to pass on the information I learn to family friends and anyone who will listen. In some ways, the younger generation may be better informed on pet care and how to be a more responsible owner because of benefitting from the use of the world wide web. Something generations before them haven't had the chance to access like some of these "young" potential pet owners do.
You said: When you base your theories on the "majority" or what you previous to be the "majority" is when you discrimating. I hope you little reference to some study regarding race when it comes to who is the best caretaker for a dog, doesn't influence your placement for your puppies as well. If so you have a lot more to worry about then just your pups : /
If you think decisions based on "majority" are discriminating then I guess we have a heck of a discriminating government. Government is mostly based on "majority". How do you think your president is elected? Maybe the loser should cry "discrimination!"
Oh no, the race number came up. Well, I should be smart and refrain from commenting on that one but here it goes. First of all, oddly enough I have only had white people inquire about my doxies in all the years I have been raising them. Now, do I have an opinion on the subject? You bet. I won't share it, but here is a quick little survey you can do yourself.
1. Call your vet and any other vets in your town and ask them the percentage rate of the races they see come in.
2. Go to a dog show. Tally it up.
3. Check out the obedience classes in your area. Tally it up.
4. Call the SPCA's, Humane Society's, etc.. in your state and ask them the percentage rate of races they have dealt with as far as the pit bull fighting problem that plagues many areas.
5. Go to your local pet food stores. Ask who the majority of customers are and what dogfood they buy.
Having worked for many years at an animal hospital and our local SPCA before, I know the answers in my area.
There, I said it. Let the uproar begin. Many people probably feel the same way but dare not say it.
Your right it shouldn't have. But at the same time he opened the door. With his last post he opened a door that is wrong. It didn't have to come right out and say what he meant. I am sure most people can read between the lines there.
Wow, what a shame. I hope this thread doesn't have to be removed because alot of good points have been made and it can be educational in helping enlighten others on some points they may not have thought about.
The point of a message board is to get everyones different views on subjects. We learn from each other. I know alot of times I want to slap myself upside the head when a good point is made because I didn't even think or what someone else may point out.
Doxy I think you should edit that post before this goes further because that is getting a little personal and touchy for a public message board and things may get out of hand quickly.
*scrathces her head* Ya know I rarely say this kinda thing
Anyway here it goes
IcyHound = 26 year old Black Female from inner Maryland
Somehow with this handicap I manage to have 9 dogs, a 3.2k square foot house that we *own* ten acres of land, a job as a dispatcher for the police department and I manage to show those same dogs as a respectable human being.
While we all have our sterotypes and such, there is a diffrence between selling a dog to an 18 year old who has just entered collage and says that they are 'so cute and I always wanted one' and an 18 year old who works, has a solid living enviorment and goes to school, espcally one who has owned animals for many years.
At 23 my friend decided she wanted a dog. I drove up to Boston to help her with her selection. She was turned down by many places becuase she was to young and would abandon the dog in under two years.
So we wound up finding a wonderful greyhound rescue and she has Roo.
Roo was 6, she wanted a mature dog. Roo is now 10, he has an eye disease that require smedication twice a day. He is goofy, hes a normal retired greyhound. They are driving down to visit me next week. Driving so Roo can come along and lounge in what my friend calls the Dog Paradise aka my home, which after we purchused we spent 30k bucks ripping out carpet, putting in pergo flooring, redoing the basement and building the dog runs.
While I understand your concerns, maybe I should dig up the post made by another member who was worried about selling to OLD people, almost in their 50's from last year. Prehaps I am to young to own dogs and you are to old.
wow. you wont sell to younger people or black people ? and yes i have seen someone post here before that would not sell to the elderly. what i can not understand is : what difference does it make ? how old or what color a person is ? and your statement about what color people spend the most time in a vets office ? how did you put it ?
" 1. Call your vet and any other vets in your town and ask them the percentage rate of the races they see come in. "
roflmao ! what kind of vet monitors the color ratios of their clientele. that was beyond far-fetched to me. my son is white and his girlfriend is black. my daughter is white and her boyfriend is black. how, ever will the vets tally up that "ratio" !
its not about race or age. its about what kind of owner they will be. if they will love and care for the dog, that should be your one and only concern when searching for prospective homes. the ability to love comes in all sizes and colors.
First of all, as far as "dude" and "too old" -- I am a 39 year old female.
So now I am racist because I suggest 5 steps to find out some facts. Oh, I forgot, in this day and time one must be very careful of what they say because if someone else doesn't like hearing it, even if it's factual, then all of a sudden it is racist.
Get one thing straight, I am not racist. There are people of different races that I have met and not liked before, but it had something to do with THEM, not their race. I've met MANY of my own race that I wouldn't want to see own a pet roach. What do you call that? Oh geez, can't call that racist since they are my own color. This is ridiculous. I have friends of different races and even family of different races that have married in. Do I have a problem with it? Nope.
All of you that do not admit what the likely outcome of those 5 questions would be are simply trying to play it safe. Facts are facts, not racist.