I see alot of people here have pure bred dogs, which is great but is there anyone else like me who prefers the mutt? My whole life every dog I had was a mutt, usually saved from an animal shelter or off the street. They always were so loyal and so loving like they were greatful and knew they were getting a second chance at life. The pure bred is great and all but I have always prefered the mutt. Anyone else out there feel the same??
Yes, I don't care what the dogs is. My mom always had dogs that come to her from abundonment or something along that nature. And she always had strange, unique names to give them. One was a sausage dog, probably mixed, but it was all black, he name was Mr. delicate. Then came a dorbaman, she name him Sutaom. Then came another dog, German Shepard mix with something else, this one was named Shebba, and this was the very same dog that saved my life when I was 2 years old.
It was in Nassau, we use to live right on the beach, I went out to the ocean without my mom seeing me, went in the water as far as I couldn't reach anymore, and Shebba was always by my side, she saw that I didn't come up for breath, because of course I was just a little toddler, she dived as far as I was reached out her paws and I could see underneath the water, I grabbed it like it was no tomorrow and she dragged me the shure and that is when my mom dashed out side looking for me and found me and Shebba pulling me to show, it was all over the new papers in the bahamas. Shebba was a mutt of the streets that my mom took in. We had other dogs, but I can't remember them all, I know there was one with only 3 legs.
I too, like mutts, I don't care who says what, it's my opinion and that's the end of it. I have a Cocker Spaniel/hound mix, not sure what type of hound, but it looks like the Basset hound, anyways, I got her for mearly 50 bucks from this girl that didn't know squat about dogs and was just giving them away because her Cocker Spaniel pure bread had gotten pregnant. I don't know if Macy is considered purebread or what, I don't care what she is. To me she's my baby and she'll be spoiled to the end of her days.
I love my mutt, and I love my purebred dog. We rescued our mutt Bowen from the humane society, and he's been an utter joy. But there are things that you can't do with a mutt that you can do with a purebred.
What are those things you can do with a purebread and not with a mutt. Wait, let me guess, have them in compitition? Big deal, there are plenty of things both of them could do that does not have to be in stricked conditions. I don't care for those events that are stricked to only purebreads, they can keep it for all I care. I would prefer to take my pet where he or she is wanted no matter what the breed.
It's like discriminating against another person. Yes in this case it's with animals, so what if they are mutts, as long as they can preform the same thing as a purebread, I say why not give the mutts a chance to prove them selves. But people are people and you can't change them, it's like they say, you can't train an old dog new tricks, or however it's said.
I also luv mutts... or as I should call them designer Hybrid dogs! (LOL) ;) Before I bought my JRT puppy my first choice was to go to the animal shelter.
Well the only dogs they had there were... Shep Mix, Rot mix or Lab mix. That size dog was just too big for where I live. So I had no option but to buy a small purebred. Personally I luv all types og dogs. I have yet to meet one that I don't like!
Actually there are other tasks that mixed breed dogs can't perform as well as purebreds. This is why purebred greyhounds are in dog races, why herding breeds excell at using their instinct for herding, why newfoundlands have such a strong instinct for water rescue, why retrievers do such a good job of retrieving, pointers point, why bloodhounds do such a good job of tracking, and so on. It is the purpose to which they were bred for dozens, and in some cases, hundreds of years, and they take to it instinctively, without any training at all in many cases.
That is the thing, is that many mixed breeds can't perform the same duties as some purebreed dogs. It doesn't make them worse or inferior, just different. My mixed breed dog is extremely intelligent, and does well at agility... but he retrieves when the spirit moves him, hates water, ignores birds, and point'edly pretends not to hear me me when I ask him to move off the couch sometimes ;P
I'm sorry you take your apparent hatred of purebred dogs to hating their owners as well. It doesnt' make much sense but that's your perogative. You don't seem to understand that we cherish our mixed breed dogs just as much as we do our purebred dogs, we just also enjoy having the option to do conformation showing, in addition to doing events that .. how do I explain... that help our pets do what their entire breed was created to do...
me too. I love all dogs, but mutts have got to be my favorites. Pure breds may have some special ability or look that no other breed has, but mutts have a mix of all of those to make one special, perfect dog. I have gotten all three of my dogs from animal shelters and they are such sweethearts!! My first dog, Luke, is a Lab/Border Collie mix and was abandoned as a puppy because the owner was majorly allergic to dogs (I never could figure out why he got them in the first place...). I have had him since I was 6 years old and has been a great friend ever since. Just last year I got 2 more dogs, their names are Jack and Jezzy, and are very sweet little puffballs. Actually, Jack is a pure bred Border Collie, but pretend I didnt mention that... My fourth dog died just before Christmas 2004. Her name was Sweetie and she was a Louisiana Catahoula Leopard Hound (WOW! long name huh?). We found her playing with Luke in my backyard in May 2003. She was dangerously thin and had no collar so we took her in and cared for her until a snake attacked and killed her. :( Anyway, I love mutts, and I love my pure bred too.'
PS: If anyone's wondering, no, Jack doesn't go in Dog Shows. Too much trouble! He's too hyperactive anyway.
i do really like mutts better then purebreds.my dog dolla is about to start agility on the 25th and he isnt a purebred and he is still able to do it.the only thing is that he cant go to the akc tournament.the instructor actually loves having mixed breeds in her classes that what her dogs are.she is also a akc judge thought she is wonderful
minni I read somewhere on here that a dog will take on both characteristics of their breed. Meaning that a dog who is half shepherd and half dobermin may be a great guard dog or may be a great herder. They will have a little bit of both in them. The dog may have the temperment of a sheep dog but the agility of a dobermin. The traits you described of your mutt may be just characteristic of your mutt. I know of pure bred dobermins that are only scary to look at but don't have that ferociousness that they are known for. My sister owns 2 purebred pitts, and despite their horrible reputation these dogs wouldn't hurt a fly except for jumping on it. I believe it is how you raise a dog that has alot to do with how it behaves. I have been looking up longhaired dachshunds since I have identified my new dog as that and it says they are very bold, chase small animals, and domineering in any household. My dog does none of those things as of yet. He was also greatly abused so those traits he could have been born with were not nurtured. In psychology they teach you that nature gives you your potential but depending on how your nurtured depends on if you will reach that potential. I believe it is the same with dogs. Yes certain breeds are born with certain characteristics but those characteristics need to be nurtured to come out. With a mutt you can have many different characteristics of different breeds which makes the dog much more entertaining because you don't know what to expect and each new thing is a suprise.
I think what you read was that a mixed breed dog has the *chance* to take on characteristics of either breed that it is the offspring. I know someone who had an Oold english sheepdog x labrador retriever mix.. it looked like a slightly longhaired lab.. had the webbed feet of a lab.. but yet it hated water, which is definitely not a characteristic of labs. Breeders can't choose which instinctive behaviors and weaknesses are passed down to a dog's offspring, any more than you can choose which negative health aspects and weaknesses pass down.
I am sorry but I disagree.. certain characteristics do not need to be nurtured to come out but come out instinctively. It's a rare rare akita that will not imediately chase a small rabbit running under it's nose, regardless of what how it was brought up or even if it'd never encountered a rabbit before. In the same way, you weren't here a few weeks ago when someone's beagle/pug mix, that had been raised with rabbits all it's life, suddenly decided that all of their rabbits looked great on the dinner table. Again, in this situation, the 'beagle instinct' for hunting reared it's head and went into effect.
Some dogs (regardless of breed) can be trained over time to use certain behaviors that they don't generally take to. IE, teaching a collie to retrieve. But it does not come 'naturally' for certain dogs the way it does for others and is more of 'work' than it is instinct.
For people who want a dog for a specific purpose, purebred dogs (especially those from lines that are already well established in that field, eg. a labrador retriever puppy from parent dogs that both have hunting titles and have well established hunting and retrieving instincts) are the more reliable way to go.
Again, I amnot disputing the fact that most of the fun of having a mutt is trying to figure out what it is and figuring out 'what side of the family' that particular characteristic came from. I *love* my mutt and I *love* my purebred dog. But I also recognize they have different strenghts and weaknesses and believe me, my lab is much more suitable as a hunting dog/retriever/conformation handling dog than my mixed breed dog is.
***Edited By: Minniyar on 7/7/2006 10:24:20 PM*** Reason: add
Of course it is discrimination, but that isn't a bad thing.
I mean, we all discriminate between different dogs when we are choosing one that is right for our family, and our desires of what we want to do with the dog. So, yeah, it's discrimination, I guess... but for instance, I think I might just wring the neck of a little Jack Russell!!! ha ha.. just kidding, but it just isn't my style. I like my lazy black lab, thank you. That is discrimination, but certainly we should discriminate in order to make a good match for us! What else do we have to go on but breeds? We can't very well have conversations with them first and ask them if they think they really might be prone to chasing bunnies if given the chance. We just think "hmm... I don't really trust that breed with a bunny"
I think if people were more discriminating they wouldn't have to take their pure bred dogs to the pound with excuses like "too much energy" or "he chases the cat."
Please, DISCRIMINATE FIRST!!!
***Edited By: kdubbs27 on 7/7/2006 10:36:43 PM*** Reason: spell
I think one of the weaknesses of purebreds is their health problems. Very few mutts I know have nearly as many health problems as pure breds. Maybe it is all that inbreeding. Sometimes the gene pool can use an extra gene to prevent health problems. Having a dog is like having a baby I think. We all want certain characteristics in our children but most of all we just want a healthy happy child. With pure breds you have higher chance of having a certain health problem that is passed on by that breed. Here is a website that talks about the increasing heredity health problems in purebred dogs if you don't believe me. There are many other sites and books on it too. This site talks mainly about dobermans but each breed comes with its own risks. I say if you want healthy go mutt. http://www.uniteddobermanclub.com/breed/Doberman_hereditary_3681FE.pdf#search='health%20problems%20in%20purebred%20dogs'
***Edited By: diabolical_sprite on 7/7/2006 10:44:07 PM*** Reason: misclicked
the thing about purebreds being more genetically inclined to health problems is up for debate i think??
idk i'm not a breeder but i read on this very forum about how hybrid vigor does not matter if similar breeds with similar genetic problems are bred together.. i.e. if a pug is bred with a peke it'll still have breathing problems.. or if one large breed is bred to another they'll both have luxating patella, so i would think the statement could be argued both ways. i think it is something to chew on.
isn't that why so many people are advocates of GOOD breeders who know their genetics so they can work on isolating and working out the faults in a breed?
some does are just bred in certains ways because of specific purposes, and the preferences of people. if we could just put all breeds together to make one perfect super monster breed, wouldn't we have done so already? it's like going out to buy clothes.. some things fit right/look right on some people while they won't on others.
i doubt you will find many people on the forum who will argue against how wonderful mixed breeds are, but we also have a certain breed that we love because of its personally, looks, etc. i think it's not fair to insist one is better than the other.
***Edited By: ntki on 7/7/2006 10:52:40 PM*** Reason: ...
The tough thing about that argument, diabolical_sprite, is there is no "normal" to hold a mix against.
I mean, your mutt is a mix of unknown heritage, so you can never have a mix that is the same, really. Does that make sense? You could, eventually, I suppose, but that isn't really a mutt. A mutt is a "I have no idea" dog.
SO... you can track that labs are prone to this disease, based on years of research. Or yorkies show a high occurance of this disease. But you can't do that with mutt's because it is impossible. Because you never know the breeds. So the answer is nearly impossible to get. You see my point? Unless you had the same mix over and over for generations and generations, then you can never find out what it is prone to. And after that many years of planned breedings and study, then it isn't a mutt anymore so you can never do it.
I also think that it's important to state that nowdays veterinary care is better, owners are more informed than ever before. When health issues arise, people are more likely to recognize a problem and to get proper veterinary care. I suspect that in the 50s, when some people had dogs with health problems they may have just taken them out back and shot them. Pets are family members, they live in our homes, not in our back yards like many dogs of the 1950s. They are exposed to more diseases and parasites, because people nowdays are far more likely to travel with their pets and encounter in their travels.
Since dobermans were mentioned in the article, it's quite possible that some of these 'hereditary defects; have been in the breed since it's inception. It's just we didn't know. Nowdays there's DNA tests that are showing not just dogs that have the defects with no outer effects, but also pinpoints dogs that are carriers. Does it mean these diseases are more common? Not to me, it just means now we know what we're looking for, now we know the genetic marker and now we can specifically identify these deleterious genes before they can be passed to offspring.
A good breeder does these kinds of tests, to try and halt the spread of genetic problems and bad hereditary genes. This is why so many people on this forum advocate responsible breeding.
What many people dont realize is that... let's again use the doberman pinscher. Here we have a doberman pinscher.. that is a carrier for Von willebrand's disease. Some guy breeds it to an akita, which we know is not a carrier of this disease. And we get a mixed breed dog. But this dog, while mixed breed, is also a carrier of vWD. Not to mention having a chance of beeing a carrier for everyother recessive gene associated with either of the two 'parent' breeds. It is no more healtheir in the long run. And if bred to mixed breed that through roll of the genetic dice is a carrier of vwd, it has the chance to produce vWD affected puppies... nevermind that they are mixed breed dogs.
This is why I keep bringing up the fact that you can't pick and choose which genes, good or bad, get passed to offspring. And this is why it is so important for good breeders to have absolute knowledge of the dogs they are breeding, ofthe entire pedigree of dogs they are breeding, so that they know where health problems have cropped up and they know where they're from.
The problem here is the vast vast majority of mixed breed dog breeders (and a far too many purebred dog breeders) aren't doing any kind of testing whatsoever. They don't care about anything other than producing 'cute puppies', or making money by selling puggles or bugaboos, or poodermans or whatever else.
And if you think that mixed breed dogs are healthier, I advise you to volunteer at a vet's office for a few weeks or talk to some people who work in one. Mixed breed dogs are just as likely if not more so to have health problems, due ot indescriminate breeding practices.
If purebred dogs are having more so many more health problems, why are purebred dogs living longer than ever before on average?
***Edited By: Minniyar on 7/7/2006 11:31:38 PM*** Reason: add
I had the most wonderful little mixed breed growing up!
To tell you the truth I got down right MAD if someone called her a mutt! I instantly corrected them (kids and adults) that SHE was a "mixed breed". My friends knew never to refer to her as a mutt and they all loved her too.
Writing this I think I know why I own a beagle and a basset (purebred)-LOL! When people confuse what they are I still get a little mad. Which would be why the big hype over designer dogs drive me nuts. First they were mutts (and undesirable) NOW they are a perfect combination of blank_blank. Who cares!
I think ALL dogs are wonderful whether they are mixed or purebreed. It's there loving personality that counts! And now that is priceless.
LOL I pride myself on being politically incorrect. Sry I should have said mixed breed to be politically correct. But hey as I said there is no insult in being a mutt/mixed breed/hybrid they are the best dang dogs. At least that is my opinion. It is good to see why so many like one breed over another and why some prefer mixed breeds to pure breds
Me personally I prefer purebred dogs becasue I know what it is gonna look like when it grows up. I got my Shiba-Inu becasue i wanted a dog that can be left alone while I work and not destroy the house, I wanted a smaller dog that acted big, all the things i was looking for when I bought my first dog and Shibas were the answer. When getting a mixed breed you dont know what it's personality is going to be like, where I can bring my dogs to work with me, this is the third job that I have had with that privledge, I couldn't have a dog that barks a lot, or is aggresive towards strangers, and some breeds no matter how raised ae like that. My boss has an American Eskimothat has been raied in this hotel with lots of ppl coming and going all day and night, they live on site, and she hates strangers barks at everyone, and will not allow herself to be pet by strangers. If you are getting a mixed breed of unknowen ancestry you have no way of knowing what it will be like as an adult was not something I was willing to deal with. I am not saying anything is wrong with mutts, but I have to agree with sienna, purposly crossbreeding is wrong.
i prefer purebreds myself. i dont buy the " mixes are healthier line". who can know that for a fact. all dogs are suseptable to illnesses. i picked my breed because i loved everything about them, their cuteness, playfulness and their extremely lovable nature. i knew when i was looking for a french bulldog pup, that i was getting all those qualities that i was looking for. now i have three and they all three match the characteristics of the breed. not saying there is anything wrong with mixed breeds, just seems like a shot in the dark as to what you may be getting as far as both looks as well as temperment.