As of right now I don't feel like 'I show'. I pay some one to show my dogs and that is VERY unrewarding. I would like to show UKC again soon, but right now I have a pretty big handler bill I am working on and my husband was layed off work.
I show AKC/UKC/American Rare Breed Association conformation and have titiled my dogs in Schutzhund, Weight Pull, Herding, Carting, French Ring, Obedience, Agility, Temperment Testing, and I have several who are therapy dogs.
***Edited By: Wandering_Spirit on 8/8/2006 2:28:22 PM*** Reason: it's embareassing when you spell your breeds name incorectly.
If you know the breed standard you don't necessarily have to show. You could just as easily attend local shows and talk with other breeders, etc.
I may be showing Jasmine in UKC. How well she will do, I don't know. Springers with tri color and tickings dont usually place in shows, although its very much part of breed standard. So figure that one out.
I have bitches in my breeding program that are 'classic' or solid (lacking the loud white markings). I would never bother to show them because they are not given fair concideration in the 'show ring'. However, they are DEFINATELY necessary to continue to have a healthy breed of boxers.
Some show people don't have a problem breeding 'flashy to flashy' which guess what? Can produce up to 1/2 the litter of whites. Not good. In Europe they aprreciate the classic color. I could care less what the American ring or any ring think about classics.
There are many reasons why a dog doesn't finish or turn out to be 'ring material' that should not exclude them from the gene pool if they have enough other desirable traits.
I know PLEANTY of Champions that are lacking in the HEALTH AND TEMPERMENT department. Not that it is advertised you have to learn the hard way.
The other factor is: News flash. Popular breeds/handler breeds are MUCH much much much harder to finish than the 'rare breeds' that often the only competition at small shows are your own dogs..... (stacking the points with your own dogs...it happens).
It is a lot more difficult for a Boxer to win a 3 point show against 30 dogs than a Yorkie to win 3 points against only 6 dogs... get my drift?
You just have to keep showing in perspective just like any of the other aspects of breeding (health and temperment).
Well, we all have our own opinions. I'd rather not spend all my money and time on a show that my dog just has to standa round and look pretty. I'd rather her be out doing agility or something fun. Springers are fun loving dogs.
Yes I'm going to try it. But if she doesn't place it's because the judges pick the dogs that have the "saddle" back, only liver or black no tri, and no tickings. When's the last time you saw a tri springer with ticking at the show?
One guy in charge of the springer rescue and I were having a convo about that. He said he went to a show recently (for springers only) and there were about 200 of the same damn dog. Now go over seas, and you will find REAL springers.
***Edited By: thelifeofriley on 8/8/2006 9:57:42 PM*** Reason: add
If you have a classic color or what I hear described as a not popular color with the judges then you have other choices.
If you don't want to have your dog stand around looking pretty you have other choices.
I do show my dogs in conformation classes. In conformation classes they are judging breeding stock. Not pretty! There are standards for each and every breed and you dog is judged against that standard. I agree that politics and the judge's interpitation of the standard are what he/she is judging by. However, They are supose to be looking at each dog against the standard ""JUDGING BREEDING STOCK"
Now for your choices. You can show in obedience classes and get your dog a utility title. As far as titles go they do not mean anything as far as how pretty your dog looks, we all think our dogs look pretty.
As a breeder I show to find out my dogs shortcommings against the standard and then look for a stud dog who has strengths in that area. My female is a short back with perfect angles and she is a perfect box, however, she falls a little shy on the under jaw. That is the most important thing I will look for in a mate for her, hopping his strengths will balance her shortcommings.
You find these things out in the show ring - when you have dozens of judges telling you the same thing strengths and weeknesses then you know and can look for the perfect mate for your dog to breed out her weeknesses.
I hear you Wandering_Spirit, I was just wondering if there were any others of us on here, I didn't even know alicat bred/showed before but I haven't been around in a long time.
So many people make empty claims, thats why I want to see proof even if they haven't shown a particular dog they bred I want to see proof that they do show and that they do know the standard and know what they are talking about when they breed.
Temperament and health are definatly important too! Conformation is just ONE ASPECT I believe and while its important I think temperament and health should be treated as equally important as well as drives and working functionability.
Someone said they show in American Rare Breed Association...how has that been going? I was thinking about trying some of their shows, they seemed ok.
I tried showing but not my cup of tea. I do not think you have to show your dogs to be considered a ethical breeder. I know some show breeders that arent all that ethical. I think a ethical breeder is one that produces a helthy, all around sound, to fit breed standard (but does not have to be show quality) and honest. You can breed two champions together and not be guaranteed to produce champion puppies. Just becuase you are actively showing does not make you any better than the next. You too produce pups that are not show quality or are shown. I am sure pups you have sold have gone on to breed too. So please tell me why it is so important to show if you breed? Is it because it makes you feel like the bigger person with the better pet? If it is your cup of tea great but not for everyone and it doesnt make there dogs any less quality or them a bad breeder.