Dogs Deserve Better Founder Needs Your Help! May be jailed for saving a dying dog!
September 11 2006 at 10:22 PM A.S. (Login CPRR) from IP address 220.127.116.11 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you know about Dogs Deserve Better, we really need your help NOW! We need everyone to alert the media! Make calls to Humane Society and whatever else you can do to help Tammy, Founder of DDB!
Be sure to watch and listen to the videos and see for yourself how her decision was justified!
Grimes Jailed for Rescuing Dying Chained Dog
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Here is the background info:
We got a call from Kim in East Freedom this morning, crying because Doogie hadn't gotten up since Saturday. She had been calling the Central Pennsylvania Humane Society since Saturday to no avail. We told her we aren't law officers, and she needed to call the humane officer.
Then we got another call about the same dog, from another person who passes him every day. At that point we called Kim back to see if she'd heard from the Humane Officer. She had not, so we promised her we'd go out and see what we could do. When we got there, we took photos and video of Doogie. We initially thought he was dead, as he was not moving and his back was to us. We found out that the people were not home to talk to about him, so I made the decision that he could not lay there on the cold wet ground for one moment longer, and I would accept all consequences of my decision.
The neighbor Kim has agreed to testify on my behalf if necessary. She cried the whole time we were there, you can hear her on the video.
I think once you see the video and pictures, you'll understand why I made this decision.
The vet documented his general negligent condition, low weight, sores, missing fur, and took xrays of his back and hips. He determined that he has very bad back spurs that are causing him a lot of pain and are most likely responsible for his inability to walk. He also saw an undetermined mass near his hip on the xray. He gave him a shot for pain plus some B vitamins for energy, so that perhaps he could have even one good day or a few good hours. He wrote a letter stating his condition in case we needed it.
Shortly after we got Doogie to my home, situated, bathed (had to, the stench was too bad), and fed and watered an Officer Flag called from the Freedom Township Police Department (I know, Freedom, isn't that ironic?). He wanted me to return Doogie, which I refused to do.
Here's what I need from you all. View the videos and photos, below. I think you'll agree with me that this is NOT acceptable in ANY kind of humane society, and we cannot allow this kind of animal abuse. We MUST stand up and STOP accepting this to be ok for people to do to their dogs, and STOP jailing those who are trying to help them.
I could never look myself in the eye again, much less sleep tonight, had I left Doogie there dying, shivering in the dirt. I will spend the rest of my life in jail as opposed to handing him over to be abused further by these people.
Please, contact ALL media with these photos and videos. Get justice, for Doogie and for me. Do NOT allow this treatment of those who are here to help, and who actually care. Call the Pennsylvania Humane Society and tell them you expect them to stand with me against this kind of abuse.
All national media! Make sure to send them links to the video, it's very compelling. My best friend, Tracy, has the video and hi-resolution copies of the images for print. She can be reached at tracy@... (I have to get this)
Don't stop until there is Justice for Doogie and ME! I'm just not tolerating this kind of treatment, for either of us. No one should.
Is there a court date set for the hearing of this doogie? I'm sure no judge will put you in jail for giving this dog some human kind and caring home. Well, let us know what happens.
I don't know what I can do on my end, but I wish I could help. I'm not all that good with medias and such, hopefully someone here is more political then I am and can lend a helping hand to wat doogies was going through before you had him in your home.
~Bekeh All you have to do is call 814.942.5402 and tell the PA Humane Society that you expect to stand behind Tammy and not let this abuse happen. This is something we all can do if we all made a phone call.
I cried so hard when I seen the video I couldn't call until later. The more calls the public makes the better it will be for Tammy.
If you can't do this a prayer will be wonderfull!! Thank you so much Bekeh!
***Edited By: WileyBlaze on 9/12/2006 10:37:16 PM*** Reason: add
He and three other police vehicles arrived at my home at approximately 9:30 p.m. As I refused to hand Doogie over to be returned to death on a chain, and would not tell them where he was, I was taken into custody, transported to the East Freedom police office, and charged with theft, receiving stolen property, criminal mischief, and criminal trespass. I was released on $50,000 unsecured bond and ordered to appear at a preliminary hearing September 21, 2006.
I was treated like a common criminal, especially by Chief Reilly, who called me a 'freakin' idiot', 'incompetent', and I overheard him telling Officer Flaig that if I ever came near his dog I would have a slug in my a**. Again, there was no interest in any evidence that the dog had been abused or criminally neglected. As far as they were concerned, the dog's safety or condition was not even an issue.
I was released after seeing Judge Aigner, where Chief Reilly asked that I be not given bail but incarcerated for my failure to cooperate. It was 2:00 a.m., and I had no ride home, over 30 miles away. I had to walk to a local all-night store to call and get a cab, because there was no concern over how I would get home. Their attempt to dehumanize me didn't work. I held my head high and still do. I looked Chief Reilly square in the eye at every opportunity. I will not be broken.
Thanks Flip195, When I pulled myself together I could only get though to one number. I'm in SD so maybe the time has something to do with it. That's ok, I get up at 5:30 and will make sure Chief Reilly @Freedom Township Police Headquarters: 814.695.8545 . Will get my phone call first thing in the morning.
That is terrible. I wouldn't think twice about unchaining a dog. Also, I must add:
INVISIBLE FENCES ARE BAD!
If you don't believe me, read this story:
"I adopted Molly in 1989 from the Humane Society. She was my only dog until the fall of 1993, when I decided that she needed a “sister”. A local animal sanctuary was holding an adoption fair at a pet store, and there I found a photo of an overweight, plain-looking beige dog in an album of available dogs. I saw her inner beauty and knew she was the one for me, and a week later she entered our lives.
Sophie (formerly Sugar) was about six years old, a true “mutt” with unidentifiable forbears. She had belonged to an elderly woman who also had a male dog; the woman died and her heirs decided to take both dogs to the sanctuary. Sophie had been there almost a year, and had terrible calluses on her elbows from sleeping on the concrete. She also seemed slightly arthritic, but her eyes were bright and the vet pronounced her healthy.
While Molly had always been a sweet, even-tempered dog with a willingness to please, Sophie was …rougher. She snarled at Molly near the food bowl, disobeyed with impudence, and never overlooked a chance to escape our fenced back yard. Still I loved her, and over the next two years she softened and became better behaved.
When we moved to Virginia in early 1996, though, our new yard was unfenced. Due to the topography of the land, my husband and I decided that an electronic or “invisible” fence was the best way to keep both dogs safe. I arranged for four different companies to come out and give us bids on installation. As an RN, I knew the effects of electricity on the heart, and I asked each salesman in turn if the fence had ever been known to cause a dog to cardiovert (alter the electrical pattern that controls the heartbeat). All four of them assured me that the voltage was low enough to avoid harming the dog.
I was also told of a safety feature that prevented a dog from receiving repeated jolts of electricity. Supposedly, if one of the dogs ran into the electrical field and became “trapped” or was unable to leave the field, the system would shut off and the shocks would stop. This was to insure that a dog who became disoriented by the shocks and who could not remember how to make the shocking stop would not repeatedly receive the electrical stimulation.
We settled on a system, and it was installed just days before the Blizzard of ’96 hit the eastern seaboard and effectively obliterated the white flags which were to be used to visually train the dogs to avoid the field boundaries. When the snow melted enough for the flags to again be visible we began training again. Both dogs soon found, though, that if they ran quickly through the electrical field the unpleasant shocks would be only momentary, and we realized that training was going to be a long process.
One evening when I was at work, my husband Joe came home and put the transmitter collars on the dogs before taking them out in the back yard. When he opened the door, however, a neighborhood cat was outside, and Molly and Sophie took out after the cat at top speed. Apparently, Molly ran through the electrical field, but Sophie, who was not as fast, stopped when she began to get shocked. Unfortunately, she stopped within the field, and began to run from side to side, barking at the cat. My husband, assuming she was outside the electrical field, became concerned only when her barks turned to sharp yelps. He ran out, picked Sophie up and moved her back, then did the same with Molly. Sophie turned from where he had put her down, walked back about 20 feet, and laid down.
Meanwhile, a neighbor had come out to find out what was happening, and Joe spent a minute talking to him. When he next looked at Sophie, she was on her side, unmoving and not breathing. Unsure of how to perform CPR on a dog, he tried anyway, and immediately drove her to the animal emergency hospital, where she was pronounced dead. That was one of the worst nights of both his and my lives, and it was made worse by the guilt we felt that the fence we had installed to keep her safe had killed her.
Needless to say, we demanded, and got, a full refund for the fence, but that did not bring my Sophie back. The salesman for that company insisted that Sophie must have been ill and that she was the first dog in history to have been harmed by an invisible fence. While it is true that Sophie was older and had never had an EKG, she had had regular veterinary care and had been healthy. We also found some interesting things when Joe, an electrical engineer, ran some tests on the fence before it was removed.
First of all, that fence delivered 660 volts of electricity in pulse bursts. That is a whopping amount of electricity surging through the body of a 25 lb. dog. Second, that safety feature which was supposed to turn off the shocks only worked if the dog stood ABSOLUTELY STILL. So when Sophie paced back and forth she received repeated jolts of electricity for several minutes, which undoubtedly caused disorientation and more pacing, leading to more shocks.
Since that time I have become a vocal opponent of electronic fence systems, and I don’t hesitate to share my story when I see the telltale white flags appear on the perimeter of a neighbor’s lawn. Although these systems are sometimes the best way to keep dogs safe, I think that prospective owners should be aware of the dangers. Had I been told that older dogs were at risk because of their learning curve I would not have chosen that method of containment.
Molly is still with us. She occasionally runs off into the woods behind our house in pursuit of a squirrel, but she comes back when called, and seems disinclined to run into the street. Sophie is buried in our yard by the magnolia, and the fence wiring remains underground, never to be used again.
Update 6/11/2000: My beloved Molly died in my arms this morning, after a courageous battle against lymphoma. She is buried near Sophie in our yard."
I'm so sorry about your lost. I would start a new thread to say this again so people could hear your story. I know they make different fences for small pets etc. up to stubborn pets. You need to tell your story. Please start a topic on radio fences or such. This way everyone that wants to read about radio fences can see it!
This thread is for the helping of Tammy Grimes and we need to stay on focus! I want every one that can call please do to help keep Tammy from jail. The big picture to help all dogs!
Again, I'm so sorry, that is heart breaking!
***Edited By: WileyBlaze on 9/12/2006 11:56:21 PM*** Reason: add
WileyBlaze, thanks for clearifying this for me. The Human Society will be my call first thing tomorrow morning. I wish I could convence the rest of my family to poor in the calls but they are not really animals lovers like I am.
If I could speak w/ that so call Police officer Railey or whatever the hell he calls him self, I would give him a piece of my mind, that incopetant, no good WANNA be police officer who doesn't not give a sh****t of animals neglect. Who the hell does he think judging Tammy like that when he didn't even try to find out the story from her. Don't worry but my prayers will be with Tammy. That officer should watch out for his life in God's hand because I will pray and I will ask my mother who is anointed by God to pray for Tammy, she will come out of this winning and that officer with his tail behind his back for acting like and nimwit, unprofessional and non-educational. Girl if that was me, he would have gotten a piece of my mind right in front in his face, I am not afraid of those so call police officer wanna be. Those are the type of officers that should be put cleaning garbage becuase that is all they are good for.
Sorry for what Tammy is going through and I am there all the way with her. If I have to call several time during the day just to piss them off with calls I would.
I will speak with several people at my job and have them call as well. I can't make any promisses but I will try my best.
***Edited By: bekah on 9/13/2006 9:09:51 PM*** Reason: adding words
WileyBlaze, Just to let you know I called the PA Human Society and told them I stood 100% by Tammy and what she is doing for doogie. I hope they get bombarded with calls.
I would think you would get lots of response here on this thread, but it seams to me like your not gettting much response as I thought you would. I'm thinking you would have at least 20 pages with responses from terrificpets members, that's really sad. One story that people should look at and respond to you in concerns with what is going on with Tammy, but are not doing so. Well I hope you have good luck posting your story else where and get more response from others.
I cant stand invisible fences. I spent alot of money to install one in my yard and it didnt even work right. My dog got zapped when he was standing in the middle of the yard when he wasnt even near the wire. I will never ever use them again.
~Bekeh Thank you for calling and Flip195 has one other thread on this. I just want the people to stand behind her and if they are all like you she has a good chance. I called all the numbers that day and only got the humane society.
The rest of the mail boxes where full. I still have not gotten a real person! I think that's good, maybe there so overwhelmed that they can't keep up. Tammy is out now.
I have not had a chance to see how things are going as I was super busy with my sick parents. Just old age but it's sad, been at the hospital a lot.
But back to the subject that is most important on this thread! Flip 195 have you heard whats going on with Tammy?
I myself would like to get ahold of that want-a-be cop! pr**k! He will get his.
***Edited By: WileyBlaze on 9/14/2006 11:22:02 PM*** Reason: add
Ok...as bad as this may sound (and I am SURE several already know this and may be afraid to speak up), I will bear the bruises for the response. I am not sure how the laws are in other states but in NC in is a felony to take another persons' dog. Cut and dry. Even if the reports on the officers behaviour is accurate, that is not the issue as they were doing their job according to the law. No one had permission to remove the dog, nor was there any sort of court order to do so. I love my pets and hate to see one in distress as much as the next person. I have spoken to many people concerned over others' treatment of their pets and I always tell them the same thing: do not trespass to feed/water them, continually call animal control/law enforcement on pet condition, do not confront the owners with any threats. Most times animal control and law enforcement hands are tied so long as there is visible evidence of food/water/shelter (no matter how shabby it may appear to others). Many states don't even have clearcut laws on what adequate vet care is and when it becomes a criminal offense when not done. Had the proper authorities responded in a timely manner and determined the dog needed to be removed I'm sure things would have worked out fine and the owner could be criminally charged. But even our law enforcement and animal control offices are short staffed and under funded to handle the call load as quickly as we would like. If the dog had indeed died the owner certainly would have faced criminal charges unless there was some other untreatable medical reason for the dogs' condition (old age, terminal illness, etc.).
And yes, this is a cops answer/opinion on this. ;o)
***Edited By: cockerchaos on 9/14/2006 11:38:55 PM*** Reason: typo
Cocker, I think the real issue here that Tammy is trying to get across is that NO ONE did anything for this dog. Not the police, not the humane law officer, not the Humane Society, not dog control.... I think Tammy wants THEM to do something for this dog and others next time. Not necessarily get the 'right' to take other peoples dogs.
Last time I checked Pa Laws it was a criminal offence to knowingly not provide vet treatment to a sick animal, THE OWNERS BROKE THE LAW, so did the cops, the AC, the Humane society and their officer by not taking action against them.
Heads need to role, starting with the police chief and working down, Tammy Grimes did the only humane act in all of this.
Believe me, I sympathize with everyone on this and can see the reson why it was done. I can't say what I would have done because I am expected to uphold/enforce the laws...but rest assured the temptation would be there. With the publicity this is generating I find it highly improbable that any sane DA would pursue all the charges...maybe at most a misdemeanor trespass for removal of the dog...especially if the owner surrenders the dog in leiu of any criminal neglect charges and does not wish to pursue any further criminal charges against the one who took/is keeping the dog.
Had someone perhaps notified media or started a continuous call-in of the conditions to animal control/law enforcement maybe the response to look into the situation would have been sooner...I don't know.
Let's just say I am looking at this with my head instead of my heart...just so people understand why the cops did what they did.
Just read one of the articles and it doesn't make the situation any better by refusing to turn over the dog. Also, I read that this occured over a weekend...many AC units don't work on weekends except for maybe bite calls, injured animal in public area, etc.). I know how hard it is to get even ours to respond on a weekend...I've had to kennel several strays over a weekend at my own kennel until Monday morning and they could get picked it up.
***Edited By: cockerchaos on 9/15/2006 12:08:07 AM*** Reason: additional info