I have 3 dogs in my back yard. 2 rottis and a coyote mix. The neighbor's doxy dug a hole under the fence. Their pug puppy, about 16wks, came into my yard. My dogs killed it. I couldn't see any blood. We have 2 pugs. ONe is the same age as the one that was killed. My big dogs have never shown any aggression towards them. I believe they just played to rough. The neighbor threw empty propane bottles at my house in an attempt to wake me. I work graveyard and was asleep. One made a hole in the siding and one took off the mirror of my car and made a big dent in it. The nieghbor's son went and got my husband. The neighbor assaulted my husband as my husband was getting out of his truck. The police were called, my husband didn't press charges, we agreed to go in for 1/2 a block fence. They said they would take care of my car (about 2000 worth of damage + 5 days rental) But, they were out there taking pictures of the hole. They insist that my dogs dug it. It is completely in their yard. My dogs would have had to lay on their sides and wouldn't have been able to get more than one leg at a time into it. Thoughts please? I'm not liable am I?
I don't believe that the older rot or the mix had anything to do with it. I think it was my younger rot. I had my husband take him to his shop. The neighbor threatened to kill our dogs. I'm not sure if rabies animal control would find the dogs viscious for attacking a dog that broke into their yard. The doxi came into our yard last year and I found it and put it out. The nieghbor refilled that hole. I certainly can understand his position. If my puggers was killed, to say I would be mortified and angry would be an understatement.
The neighbor is upset I'm sure. Keep an eye on your dog's! Threats should be taken seriously!
How can you be sure which dog it is? Not meaning to change the subject but when I first got my three girl's, (Pomeranian/Dachshund's) we were crate training them together and they all have VERY different personalitie's. One was peeing in the crate and trying to burry it in lovie's. Finally I got three individual crates to see who the problem child was and we were surprised that our little shy girl was doing it, not our alpha as we had guessed. Not the bold girl at all, we don't assume anything anymore.
I know it's hard when you feel as though it wasn't anybody's fault, but now that you know other animal's can get IN your yard it's your responsibility to make sure it doesn't happen again. I don't know if you are liable or not, but a life was lost and change's should be made.
***Edited By: sweetgmichelle on 10/15/2006 5:08:32 AM*** Reason: spelling
My oldest rot is Beau. He is 11 years old. He lets our pugs climb all over him and pull at his ears. He doesn't bark and lets anyone in. Charlie is our coyote/chow mix. He is 14years old. The little ones scare him to death. He acts like he is so afraid that he might hurt them. He will hold his leg up in the air so they don't touch the babies. He has regurgitated food for them. He will also only show play behaviour towards other dogs. Butt up, tail wagging, toungue lolling. Brody is our younger rot. He is almost 2. Very food aggressive. Also very aggressive towards strangers. The doxi next door has been charging the fence and barking. Brody is the one that responds by ranting up and down that fence. Hence, I am about 99% sure that it was Brody.
Please don't misunderstand me. We are putting a block wall up. Our yard is 5 inches lower than theirs. I believe that the footing of a block wall will hold back their doxy. It would also cut down on the barking. I'm still feeling quite sick and stressed about this. It happened just under 12 hours ago. We have to live next door to these people. I'm not having a problem with the wife or the son. But I'm afraid of the actions of our husbands once they see each other again. The police that came out asked if my pitbull (he is in the front yard) was responsible. So quick to judge!!!! I told him that no he wasn't! The death was in the back yard. The whole time that the objects were being thrown at the house poor jake was hiding. He was cowering at my feet while the police were there. That officer stepped in doggie doody. That is the only time I smiled today. Thankyou for responding to my original post. I greatly appreciate it. :)
Even though my dogs are very small compared to yours, when they are in their own fenced in backyard, they get very territorial. They bark at and go after any thing or any one that comes in. When I take them places they are friendly. The neighbors dogs are probably viewed as intruders to your dogs. I feel bad for you and them.
I am so glad that I do not have neighbors close to me. Thank goodness! I love living out in the country with no one to bother me. I always see subdivisions that have houses so close to one another you could step out and shake hands with your neighbor. That is one way I could not stand to live. To me, that is not worth the money that subdivisions want for their homes and 1/2 acre of land. I love my privacy.
It sounds like a horrible situation for everyone involved. The bad news is that now you will need to be very careful about leaving your dogs unattended in the yard for any length of time in your own yard, if the neighbor is vindictive enough. I think most of us have heard horror stories people hwo have gotten into squabbles with neighbors, come home and found their dogs have been poisoned. My mom was a victim of it when she lived in Thailand.
Dachshunds are known to be digging dogs, it's in their blood, so I'd b epretty sure the dachshunds were the ones that did the digging. Especially if you dont' really have holes dug in your hard from your current dogs. Even if your dogs did dig the hole, the other dog still came up under the fence into your yard. You can line the inside of your fence with the flat concrete flagstones to discourage digging along your fence line, but it will take as much effort from them as it will from you. Get a camera and take pictures of everything (especially the damage to your house).
That's a very hard situation. I would press charges for automobile damage if I were you. Even if your dogs killed theirs, damaging your car isn't going to solve anything. I would be extremely mad. You need to sink your fence in a half foot of concrete, this will keep the dogs in their own yard, no matter who dug the hole. I would honestly have to euthanize the dog who killed the puppy. That dog is just too dangerous, and could seriously kill or injure another animal, or human.
That's not intelligent, euthanizing a dog you *suspect* may have killed another dog. Animal aggression has NOTHING to do with people aggression. Is a dog that kills birds in teh backyard a danger to people? Of course not.
Once again a clear cut case of owner responsibility. The little dog was not fortunate to have an owner provide a safe environment for it. Especially since the dog had dug under the fence before.
Even though it's kind of like closing the barn door after the cows get out, I would make an effort to provide a safe fence for the neighbor's dogs and your own. It's apparent that your dogs are territorial of their space and don't want any intruders. They're doing what they're suppose to do.
But maybe next time a small child might get through a hole under a fence and the out come of that would be much more tragic.
If the truth is known, your neighbors are probably more angry with themselves for not putting their little dog in a safe area or spending the money to fix the problem.
But if they don't agree to split the cost of a secure fence, I would foot the bill just to keep my own dogs safe and to keep others safe as well.
I don't think you're liable for this this time, but next time you could be.
Minnyar, a dog who kills other dogs CAN and IS a danger to people. I'm not saying to euthanize a dog you suspect killed another dog. Unless you know if 100%, then you wouldn't do that. Pit fighting dogs are extremely dog aggressive, and have to be euthanized because they are a danger to people. They wont hesitate to kill another dog, do you think they would hesitate to bite a human? Why do you think humane societies have to euthanize these dogs? Because they are a danger to society. I'm not talking about a dog that kills a bird, that is absolutely stupid. I'm talking about a dog that viciously kills another dog. A dog like this has obviously had bad training in the past, and a bad owner.
That one's a real headache for deciding if you're liable to the puppy's owners. If it's your fence he dug under, you're probably okay. But one thing you really need to do is to tell the puppy's owner, without any qualifications or discussing anything else with him, that you are really, really sorry his doxie died.
The real problem here is that you are now on notice about the dog's aggressive nature. A serious attack in the future, depending on all the circumstances, might end up in a felony conviction.
As a side note, I don't have anything against rotties. But you can't help notice the extremely disproportionate number of times that a tragic dog attack involves a rottie, pit bull, or doberman.
Maryjane_Leyla, like Minnyar already said, dog and human aggression is a totally different thing.
Since you brought it up, dogs trained to fight ARE NOT human aggressive. They can't be. Their owners have to get them off the dog they are fighting and how are they supposed to do that with a dog that bites humans? They can't.
A dog that is dog/animal aggressive does not always mean it's human aggressive. They are 2 totally different things.
Throwing propane bottles at my house is not something he has usually done. He could have just gone down to my husband's shop and retrieved him. As his son eventually did. Nobody saw what happened. To say that I am a bad owner because a dog was killed on my property is stupid. All three dogs are adult and male. Testosterone city. They do not attack one another, they do not attack or act aggressively towards my pugs or any of my 4 human family members. I have had rotties for over 20 years. I know how to train them, I know how to care for them, and I know how to make them happy. As I have said before, I believe that the play just got to rough. I did take pictures of the hole today. While I was taking pictures their doxy was digging in the same hole! The opening under my fence is 6 inches wide 4inches high. The hole on their side is 12 inches at the back. and 9 inches deep. Their yard is much higher than mine. My dogs could not have dug that hole unless they were laying on one side and using only one paw! It would have been impossible for them to dig up. There is NO digging on my side. We will put up a block wall with a deep footing.