Well isn't this a great adoption application (note sarcasm). Just want to make sure I should not feel bad for turning this girl down for one of our dogs without doing a vet check or home visit.
First Name = CHRISTINA last name = ***** date of birth = **-**-1986 address = ***** city and zip = LA MARQUE home number = ***** cell number = ***** email = ******* how did you hear about our group = INTERNET are you interested in a dog or cat = Dog pets name = NOT SURE where will the dog be kept during the day = IN MY HOUSE at night? = IN MY HOUSE Is your yard fenced or unfenced = fenced fence type = ALLUMINUM 4 FEET TALL will you use a leash when exercising your pet = YES What activities will you do for exercise = WALK GO TO PARK are you familiar with the heartworm disease = yes What do you currently use for heartworm prevention = Heartguard why are you interested in adopting = Child's pet Do you have any other pets = Yes pets info = PEE-WEE CHIHUAHUA 3 YRS OLD Any other pets in the past 5 years = Yes what happened to them? = POOKIE MY FIRST CHIHUAHUA SHE WAS 4 YRS OLD SHE PASSED AWAY BACK IN APRIL SHE GOT PREGNANT I DIDNT EVEN KNOW IT AND OVER NITE SHE PASSED AWAY WITH HER TWO PUPS STILL IN HER TUMMY HER CERVIX WAS TOO SMALL. who is your vet = DR SCOTT vetphone = N/A home type = House own or rent = Rent landlords name = MY PARENTS landlords phone = ****** family members = PATRICK ******* 22 YRS OLD CHRISTINA ****** 20 YRS OLD ABBY **** 1 YR OLD Comments = I REALLY AM LOOKING FOR A GOOD DOG I KNOW ANOTHER DOG CAN TAKE MY POOKIES PLACE BUT IT CAN HELP TO HAVE A PLAYFUL DOG PLEASE HELP ME
Well What do you guys think? Does she sound like she needs another pet?
***Edited By: bippy798 on 10/31/2006 5:53:45 PM*** Reason: oops left personal info
We just had our first litter of puppies and have an application for people. I do not want to come across as judgmental or "holier than thou". But, I don't think I could let one of "our babies" go to a house like that. Perhaps I'm over cautious, but we are not letting our pups go to homes where they won't be loved as much as we love them and their "parents".......Go with you gut and/or heart not your head.
There's a huge difference between not being responsible and not, um, having common sense... being of an inquisitve mind... knowing. (I'm trying to be nice here, really)
I took a macroeconomics course and the professor said something like, economists assume that people make the best decisions with what knowledge they have at the time.
So I would say, maybe instead of turning her down because she made a mistake because she didn't know better (I'm giving the girl as much credit as possible), try helping her out by referring her to some sources where she'll be able to learn the basics about dogs. I think helping people to learn how to be better pet owners is just as important as adopting out pets to suitable homes.
Or you could just write the girl off as stupid and maybe she'll just get a dog somewhere else.
I'd have to agree with OtterPop, you're doing this young girl and all other dogs no justice by simply declining her application. Perhaps she has learned from her experience with the chihuahua. At least she's being honest, as most people wouldn't be. If you don't want to adopt a dog to her, then so be it. But at least take the time to explain to her why you are denying her, and educate her! I'm not using her age as an excuse for ignorance, but she is only 20, and probably doesn't know everything quite yet! Otherwise, if you deny her with no explanation, she'll simply go somewhere else and get a dog, and maybe let the same thing happen to that one. Like I said, you're doing no good by pointing out her past mistakes here, you need to point them out to her. Maybe you'll teach her something, maybe you won't, but I do feel you have a responsibility to say something to HER.
I have a problem with over explaining everything Like on that app I would have put things like
Fence- No, The house was just built and we just moved in. We are planning on putting one up by jan if all goes as planned.
where will the dog be kept during the day = Inside unless it has to go potty then it will go outside, or unless it wants to go out and run or unless it just wants to go out and lay in the sun. Over all inside unless it decides otherwise
I dont think I would adopt to her Not just because the dog died I mean the dog could have died befor she started to get big and they found out after I dont know why I wouldnt adopt to her though. I mean if yo utake that part out something still does not feel totaly right.
Do yo uhave a link to your web page? Id love to see it
Now is this for a litter of puppies you have had, or for a rescue? If it is for a rescue, the rescue should be going spayed or neutered and so her previous problem should not be an issue.
I can see a 20 year old, inexperienced with dogs and their reproductive systems allowing a dog to get accidentally pregnant and then not knowing it is pregnant and having it die. For Pete sakes some bigger ladies don't know THEY are pregnant until it falls out of them in the toliet.
With out knowing more about the person, maybe talking to the girl, I am not saying that I would let her have one of my puppies or not, but taken at face value, it is not something so shocking that I would feel the need to post it on here.
It seems like she is being held to 'dog person' standards when she is simply and inexperinced pet owner.
Thats OK, keep denying people and they will keep going to breeders while dogs are dying in kill shelters. That is probably what she will do. No one is stopping her from getting a dog.
Last night I had what seemed like a nice mature lady who was calling about a 3 year old NEUTERED male boxer that my friend had available (but he was placed with a family last weekend).
I asked the lady, if she is looking for an adult why she didn't go to a boxer rescue. She said because even though she clearly and truly does not want a boxer for breeding (the fact that she was interested in one already neutered proves that ), she does have a male pug that she has shown and MAY want to use for breeding.
Anyway he is intact and so a few of the rescues will not place with her. Why? What does having an intact male have to do with getting a spayed or neutered male or even another unneutered male (uh....two boys aren't going to make puppies together).
Just another example of the adoption process scaring people elsewhere.
I would have some questions... but I don't think I'd write her off immediately...
As far as the dog not being fixed.. if I'm reading it right - she was 16 when they got the dog... hardly an age where she could make the decision... her parents would have made theat decision.
Not realizing the dog was pregnant? well... I've only ever owned male dogs... if I had a female I'd have one heck of a learning curve....
The mother of a 1 year old. I think it's very presumptive of anyone to assume that because she has a 1 year old she wouldn't be able to handle a puppy. I would say that perhaps she wants to get a puppy and get the pup trained before her daughter is in the really mobile stages and reaches the terrible 2's. And maybe she is looking for a playmate for the other dog who has always been part of a 2 dog family?
If I had a 1 year old and I was thinking that I wanted a dog... I would certainly do it right then - not wait because I wouldn't want the puppy to be "something new" to a 2 year old...
I also wouldn't turn her down because she's 20 and and has a child already.... From the time a young lady finds out she's pregnant to the time that she has the baby - an incredible amount of maturing can take place.
My questions would involve housing. She list her parents as the landlords: Does she live on the same property as they do? In the same house or a separate building? If the same house... do her parents have pets?
Is her living situation secure or temporary? Is she thinking that they're going to "move out to a place of their own"... have they thought about apartments that take dogs and kids?
Financially... are they prepared for the cost of another dog? What do they expect the cost of owning another dog to be? What unforseen expenses can they imagine? How would they deal with them? Some people simply never think about a dog coming down with pancreatitis, diabetes, spraining a leg, etc...
I would talk to her, and feel her out as far as how much knowledge she actually has about not only dogs, but the particular breed she is interested in. You never know, she could have stopped by a place like this board and gained alot of info since then. April was a long time ago....
What concerns me, and maybe you should talk to her about this, is that she rents from her parents... She has a very young daughter and another dog already... Can she really handle this addition to her daily routine? Is she a stay at home mom, do her parents look after her daughter and the dogs when she's not home (if so, maybe they aren't willing to do this) etc.. etc..
If, after you talk to her..you feel like something isn't right then I would say go ahead and tell her no. If it was me, she would still have a little bit of a chance here, depending on her answers and how good of an impression she gave.
I also think she should bring her daughter in so you can see how the dog reacts and how she allows her daughter to interact with the dog. Bring along the boyfriend because usually if guys are jerks and they aren't dog people you definately know it.
You need to place the dog where you feel comfortable, not according to if any of us agree with you or not. You can always ask that she keeps in touch and allows you to visit the dog once in a while to see that he is flourishing, that way you can rest easy. If she is dead set against that, then she is probably up to no good and lying about one thing or another.