weimngolden i agree. My dog HATES water unless it is in a river or lake but water from, hoses, bottles, squirt guns, milk jugs, ANYTHING he freaks and stops what he is doing IMMEDIENTLY. I only use it when it is necessary but sometimes i will threaten by saying "Do you want the water?" or something to that effect. Dont use it constantly.
Also to the crat idea, get a crate for either ALL of them or three individual ones, SOMETHING! That way one doesn't feel left out. I mean dogs dont want to sit there trapped and watch their friends run and play and they cant. He also knows, when he whines, you come running and let him out.
"Also to the crat idea, get a crate for either ALL of them or three individual ones"
I have to disagree there. Do NOT get a crate large enough for all three. They need individual crates. If you were to crate them together and they had a fight, they would not be able to get away from each other. It is NEVER a good idea to crate dogs together, no matter how well they get along.
The average dog is a nicer person than the average person.
I certainly dont use the water bottle to much, not enough maybe but im back on track with the water bottle, I have used it and Daisy and Bentley do stop what they are doing and walk away, but Louie just looks at me like ya so what... and The water bottle is new to him and i just started using it on him a few weeks before i posted abotu this problem, he just doesnt care, hes to playful and thinks you are playing with him..
I really dont want to crate any of my dogs, I just dont have the heart to and i know everyone says its a good thing but to me its like putting them away when im done playing with them and i just cant do it,
I have taken each dog out for walks with just me, or go out side to go potty one at a time, the walks are ok , but going potty they will wait for the others to come out.
They are all very close and dont fight anything like that. Daisy is like the mother hen to Louie and makes sure he is ok when he yelps or something is going on, Daisy is the persistant one and will shove her way on my lap if i have either one of the other dogs up there with me, she takes their treats , and toys, shes the boss and trust me im on her all the time for this attitude she has, she is not mean tho just bossy and pushy. Bentley is very laid back, and will give up his treats when Daisy comes around, He was my first dog so Bentley and I had this bond and he was with me every minute i was home and laid with me and followed me around, now that Daisy and Louie are here he doesnt get as much one on one and i do try to set out time each day for just Bentley. Daisy will push him aside to lay on me or sit by me and Bentley will just go lay some where else- breaks my heart. when im on the computer like now Bentley knows its his time and pesters me to sit on my lap, and he will sit here, for some reason Daisy has Never tried to push her way up here, and Yes i have taken Daisy down and put her on the floopr but she keeps jumping back up so i dont even argue with her anymore which im sure this makes her feel that she is the boss and Louie, hes the clown. very funny and loving and loves to mimic faces you make at him LOL we roll on the floor when he does his cujo face. and My hubby taught him this thing and i wish he wouldnt of but its funny anyways. But Louie doesnt listen very well, he looks at me like i dont care. He is house trained which went pretty easy for him, he loves treats and to eat, he will eat anything. But he follows Daisy around and they are close. So is Bentley but it took Bentley alot longer to warm up to him when we brought Louie home , Daisy was playing with him as soon as i put him down after she figured out he woudlnt harm her. since Daisy is VERY jumpy. Shes been this way since we got her and id ont know why she is this way. I have been ignoring them when i come threw the doors and really sticking to it, its helped some and they get tired of trying to get my attention and just walk away by the time im ready to give them loving they have already forgotton about me..lol
also thanksgiving dinner went well, of coare they all barked as they always do but the water bottle was out and only had to use it a few times and they were friendly and quiet and EVERYONE said what a differnce from last year- so that was nice. The only thing that happened was that Daisy nipped at my sister in laws back of her leg when she was walking threw the kitchen to the basement. she didnt draw blood or even hurt her but it shocked me that Daisy would do that. of coarse i spanked her butt and told her no bad girl. my ssiter in law wasnt sure what for sure she did but of coarse i was watching Daisy like a hawk and it did look like she was nipping- which she has never ever done before. I told my hubby later after everyone left and we both were very disipointed in Daisy for doing that never thinking she would but i guess it has been in the back of my mind since she is so skidish and doesnt like new ppl at all. I told hubby if she didnt correct this now that she will become a fear bitter, which i read about on here. But Louie was very friendly and let everyone pick him up and play with him, I hate when they all ask which one is your favorite? i said they all are. and then say LOuie is the cutest. just bothers me... I guess its like some one picking on your kids...lol But over all it went well and the dogs were behaved all but Daisys incident. what should i do to correct Daisy from nipping? maybe this will never happen again i dont know- but it does concern me and of coarse shes never done this to anyone in our family before but again she isnt around strangers to much. she goes to the groomers and vets and i do take her to petsmart, and they all say shes wonderful. I do think Daisy was just protecting our home, since they all were in the living room and then my sister in law gets up and goes th rew the house- If i was there with her she woudlnt of done this and i would get up and walk with Daisy when some one got up just to make sure she woudlnt jump or do anything. which i didnt think she would but shes the bossy one so she pushs the dogs around i didnt know what she would do to strangers any ideas
Well from that long post, clearly you aren't trying the NILIF stuff, which I firmly believe is part of the continuing problems you are having with your dogs. I know you aren't doing it because you are constantly giving your dogs attention when they demand it. Like when they want up in your lap at the computer, and you allow it, or when you are sitting on the couch, and you allow it. These are behaviors you can't allow sometimes and not others, because many dogs don't differentiate between when is an appropriate time to demand attention, like when you are sitting down on the couch or in your computer chair, and when is an inappropriate time to demand the attention, like you are walking through the house and they are hanging on your pant legs and acting crazy.
Regarding your continued opposition to crating, again, this is contributing to the many problems you have been having. You say you couldnt' bear it, but you are ignoring the fact that crates use natural instincts already present in dogs (IE, the denning instinct). You need to stop projecting your own discomfort with being caged onto your dogs, and you should never have given in on breaking down and letting the dogs out the very brief time you were crating them in the past, because by doing that you did more harm than good. Are your kids as spoiled as your dogs, in the regards that they get whatever they want if they whine long enough and make enough of a fuss? I seriously doubt your kids get what they want all the time. If you arne't giving into your kids, why are you continually giving in on things to a dog that weighs 5lbs and has a brain the size of a brazil nut?
Regarding Daisy, if she had been my dog and had nipped at a guest, I would have verbally corrected her, picked her up immediately and crated her for the rest of the evening and not allowed her any more contact with the guests, good or bad, the rest of the evening. That would have been a far better and wiser punishment than spanking her, and likely would have had more long-term effect on her, because she would have been far more heartbroken at being separated from the fun and excitement of having guests in the house. I'll wager I'm not the only person who would have done that exact thing.
Never trust a tall dwarf... he's lying about something.
If you crate your dogs it is NOT like putting them away after you are done playing with them.
You get up in the morning, get everything ready for the day, allowing your dogs to eat and wake up, then when you are ready to leave for the day say "Ok time for bye bye" or something like that and place them all in their crates. Your not PLAYING with them them putting them away. After a while this routine will just stick in their heads and they will automatically do it.
Then when you come home, put everything away, unwind a little and then, one by one, bring them out. This will help A LOT! It will also give them one on one time with you. Then proceed in the night as normal.
"The only thing that happened was that Daisy nipped at my sister in laws back of her leg when she was walking threw the kitchen to the basement. she didnt draw blood or even hurt her but it shocked me that Daisy would do that."
What situations are causing her to nip? Is she being injured in the chaos and clumsy guests? Over whelmed at people being grabby? Is she displaying any kind of body language that would indicate she was going to react? How many times did this happen and why was she continuously exposed to the situation after it was already clear to you, until it was possible for you to give her your attention and work on it?
The more some things change, the more they stay the same. I haven't been on TP in months, but looks like I haven't missed much in some respects.
Crate the dogs. I don't understand your reasoning behind refusing to crate them. They do not look at being locked inside a crate the same as a human. To them, the crate is their own private haven, to hide away in. They will soon seek out the shelter of their own individual crates.
If you can't handle them, then do the dogs a favor, face reality and get rid of one or two of them. They need to go to an owner that can handle them, not someone that lets them run over them and rule the roost.
It sounds as if you don't have the time to dedicate to training them properly, perhaps you should stop composing such lengthy posts and designate that time, instead to actually working with the dogs.
You have had literaly dozens of good suggestions of how to handle the situation that you have gotten yourself into, but I have yet to see you take anyones advice.
Trying to help people that won't listen to advice is like banging your head against the wall, it serves no viable purpose. I don't know you from Adam, but it seems that there is always much more drama going on in your doggy household than anyone that I do know.
Perhaps you enjoy the attention that your repeated cries for help render you, I haven't figured it out yet. But just remember the story of the little boy that cried wolf, after awhile no one came to his rescue anymore, when he really needed the help.
In closing, take the dogs to a trainer and/or to obedience class. If you still refuse to listen to the years of experience that have been attempting to help you, then re-home the dogs. But please, stop asking for help if you won't accept it. It has gotten old.
I would NEVER rehome my dogs. And i surly dont come on here for any sort of attention. get for real. Just because i have a few areas that i need to work on with my dogs which i have tried tons of things i have read and replys i have gotton from this forum. They did work and everything was working fine untill Louie, then Daisy and Bentley start back up all over again. which made the situation differnt from before is why i asked AGAIN- If my posts bother you, by all means pass them by. I would apprecaite ppl that have offered ideas. My dogs are my family and would never ever rehome them for any reasons. That is just outragous for anyone to even sujest. Just because i have a few areas that i need to work on with them would sujest to rehome them?? WOW maybe you need to take a step back . My dogs are loved and cared for and get TONS of attention . They are our life. They are part of our family and it would be no differnt to me as in one of my daughters having some issues and me telling them to find a diffent home, Instead of working on the issue and trying to correct it, which is why i ask these questions no matter how much they irrate and bother you. (basset)
Tappetyjohn, have you tried taking your dogs to obedience? I agree with the crate training, for more than one reason. It can restore some kind of order to your household, and help you run it, not the dogs. With the little biter, simply don't let him bite, and that may sound stupid, but when he grabs your sock, correct him, every time, which will be a lot at first. I think you are probably a very laid back person who does'nt want to do anything that you perceive as being cruel to the dog, but you're not doing them any favours by letting them walk all over you, and it just takes a bit of perseverence. Try crate training, be prepared for the uproar, but cover them with a blanket and put them in a seperate room, where they can see each other. (in seperate crates) Good luck.
"I would apprecaite ppl that have offered ideas. My dogs are my family and would never ever rehome them for any reasons."
Thats all we have been TRYING to give you. Real straight up answers and our opinions on this case. Maybe that is a problem in this case. Having your dogs be just like your family. They think they are alpha and they can walk right over you. Maybe spoiled IDK but we have been trying to give you the answers you neeed but so far they all have been turned down and critizied from you...
TappetyFlappety, "They are our life. They are part of our family and it would be no differnt to me as in one of my daughters having some issues and me telling them to find a diffent home, Instead of working on the issue and trying to correct it, which is why i ask these questions no matter how much they irrate and bother you. (basset)"
Well if your kids rate up there as high as your dogs look out correctional systems/mental health professionals.
I like him a lot better than I like most people. To you he's a dog. TO me he's an adopted son who is short, hairy, walks on all fours and doesn't speak clearly. I have no problem with any of these. <