I have seen so much sour grapes with people throwing around "desinger mutt this" "desinger mutt that" "stupid dog names".

Honestly, some of you sound absolutely stupid! Just because its not YOUR flavor, you think that gives you the right to put the owners/breeders of these dogs down?? Give me a break.

No... not a breeder, just own a poochi! Yep poochi

poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi
poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi
poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi
poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi poochi

Get over it and get used to the fact that they are all over the place and not going anywhere.

Your opinions are not fact... a pure bred dog can have problems just like a mixed dog, if not more... there isn't anything special about your pet quality purbreds in the health arena.

Ever stop to think that your purebred PET quality dog was sold by the "responsible" breeder because it didn't measure up to the show quality dogs???

It cracks me up... especially mafiaprincess when you all get foamed up at the mouth about "designer dogs" All you purebred owners...Did you get your pets from the shelter??? Or was it that "responsible" breeder you bought from?

I see an aweful lot of PUREBREDS at the shelters anymore. tsk tsk tsk.

Fact is "desinger breeders" are in it for the MONEY not the betterment of the dog/breed. Any breeder in it for the money is not a good breeder and is just taking away from shelter dogs.

No LifeofRiley...NOT all designer dog breeders are in it for the money. No more are in it for the money that the guy selling his chocolate labs & goldens from his back yard.

GET OVER IT!!

Haven't seen a PUGS health and upper respratory problems be fixed... have you?? did I miss that email?? I'm sure I didn't!

Umm hello, byb's are in it for the money. I said ANY breeder in it for the money is no good. Whether they are breeding purebreds or mutts.


Don't know anything about pugs, not my kind of dog.

NO lifeofriley... you first said "FACT IS DESINGER BREEDERS ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY" looks like your clumping ALL designer breeders.

Fact is... they aren't any worse off than purebred papered dogs.

There are TONS of byb of purebred dogs, I personally think there are more byb than not!

***Edited By: designer dude on 6/29/2005 2:13:09 AM***
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Wow. You must be very important if you get emails from everyone when every little thing happens, eh?

And since you like just the "designer mutts"... wouldnt that make a designer mutt snob out of you? Tsk tsk. I wonder what your parents think.

And the last time I checked, I'm pretty sure that "designer mutts" have little energizer batteries in their backs that make them evolve further and faster than the purebred dogs. Not all purebred dogs are up to standards... it all depends on the owner and who that dog is bred to.

PTFO



***Edited By: MericoX19 on 6/29/2005 2:14:31 AM***
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there are indeed tons of BYB purebred dogs. However, I can easily find a responsible breeder of any REAL recognized breed (FCI recognized as in). I can't say the same for designer dogs. I've never met someone who responsibly breeds designer dogs nor encountered anyone who has.

NO mexrico - I don't mind purebred dogs - HOWEVER, there is ALOT of snubbing of mixed breds on this site... here to set the record straight.

minniyar - this is the time to open your eyes to it. You can't find anything with your eyes and mind closed.

***Edited By: designer dude on 6/29/2005 2:19:54 AM***
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You're basically bashing our purebreds... which is the same thing you're against? Hmmm... get your facts straight.

oh boy sounds like someone is trying to stir things up.
So I'll put my two cents in. lol
I dont think many people have a prob with owning a mixed breed I think its the ones who breed them for money. Big money! Personally I do not agree with it. But this is America and you can do what you want.

Now the part about shelter dogs. Yes many people do push that subject. I "personally" dont like getting dogs from shelters. But thats just me. I like to know where my dog came from. A lot of shelter dogs are there because of a problem they have had with the previous owner,and I dont want to take on some elses problem. ( been there did that done that) I get my dogs as pups and I feel I know what to expect.

I think if people stop pushing the idea of "you have to get a dog from a shelter" ( like its their responsibilty to save them all) maybe more people who listen and not get defensive.
People have to remember that is was the idiots that put the dogs in the shelters to begin with that are responsible.
People should focus on being a good dog owner, because even if we all went out an got a dog from the shelter........ guess what? They would fill right back up because the same fools that brought their first dog in, are now bring in another ...... and another ...... and another. Animals breed alot faster that humans so we could never keep up with the growth. We have to be responsible owners first!!!!!

Dont get me wrong I'm all for shelters, but because I dont want to get one from a shelter doesnt make me a bad person. The bad people are the ones who put them in the shelters or get them pup in shelters.


just my opinion = )

I bet you're one of those people that support the spay/neuter your dog, then go along and support mixed breeds. Hypocrit if you ask me.

Ok Bella... I respect you and your honesty. thank you

Mexrico... I'm not bashing, just bringing the superior back down to earth.

riley... your rude and inconsiderate everytime you pump get your crap from a shelter and junk like that. I've read your responses in other posts and your OPINIONS stir people up. I love all breds... I don't hold ANY bred higher than another or disrespect anyone for buying a designer/shelter/purebred dog. You seem to snub the designer people telling us to go troll through the shelters instead!

Mexirico - your above post shows your stupidity.

***Edited By: designer dude on 6/29/2005 2:36:26 AM***
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oh one more thing, Ther must be a demand for these types of dogs if people are buying them right? other wise there would be no money in in for the "byb" selling these "mutts". Maybe educating the public on the pro's and con's is the way to go. Then If its so bad, once people learn they will stop buying. Right?

WTF is a "Designer dog"?

Designer dogs/mutts are things like "maltipoos" (maltese x poodle) or "puggles" (pug x beagle)

basically a mutt with a cute name.

Oh ok, thank you!

The problem (I see) with "designer breeds" is that you can get the same thing in a shelter for a donation, rather than a few hundred or thousand dollars. Why pay all that money for.. a mutt? When instead you could save a life. Stop supporting these breeders who are in it for the m-o-n-e-y!

***Edited By: thelifeofriley on 6/29/2005 2:57:54 AM***
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I'm with Dude on this one. Everybody's pure-bred dog was once a "mutt" before, because as I recall it, every breed was once 2 different breeds bred together to "bring out the best of both worlds". So there ya go.

Personally, I have a shelter dog and would never purchase a dog from either a BYB or a designer dog breeder or even the most reputable breeder in the whole world for that matter! I don't believe dogs should be sold for 1000's upon 1000's of dollars, if that were the case, I'd pop out some kids (and not have any end up in shelters) and send them to college for the amount of money some people spend on a dog.

I have had many pure-breds in my life (when I was younger) and all were given to us because their owners "couldn't take care of them anymore". 1 pure-bred Dobie was given to us because he didn't want to take the time to train him, 1 GSD because he was now wayyy too big for a town home, 1 Siberian Husky because she didn't do well on a farm...All these lame excuses from people who actually paid for their dogs and then got rid of them. We gave all these dogs loving homes until they were old and grey and they were the happiest dogs in the world!

So before you go and say something like "people who pay for their dogs are more likely to be responsible owners" THINK AGAIN! I didn't pay for my dog, she was rescued from the pound, yet I've owned her for 7 years now and she's the happiest dog in the world!

I don't think the measure of love is based on a dog's pedigree (or lack thereof). My personal problem is with the breeders of "designer" dogs. NOT with those who love them.

Breeders who misrepresent what they're selling to an unsuspecting buyer and sell the pups for thousands of dollars from lines not proven to "run true".

You can find MANY who state "registered" Malti-Poo or Labradoodle or Snoodle.

There is no such registration for these dogs unless it's with an organization recently created by those breeders themselves. Yes, mom may be a registered Poodle, dad may be a registered Lab, but the resulting pups can not and are not registered with the standard clubs and organizations.

As has been stated time and time again, anyone who wants to responsibly breed a new "mix" must develope a "breed standard". It takes several generations to know that the pups will run true to whatever traits they are trying to breed into or out of the lines.

As for breeders of purebred selling off pups because they have no show/breeding potential...not always the case. Speaking from personal experience here.

Designer Dude, I don't love my pure bred Pyrs any more or less than I did the mixed breeds that have enriched my life through the years.

HOWEVER, I DID pay for my purbreds, the mixed breeds were rescues. I didn't pay thousands for them, THAT (IMO) is where the difference lies.

I know my Pyrs pedigrees, I know their backgrounds for at least 7 generations (and can go back at least 10 if I so choose). I not only paid for the specific dogs I chose, I paid for the breed, personality traits that have been proven through hundreds of years, proven physical traits, my breeder's 30 year's experience with one breed specifically and I paid for those pedigrees. I know "who" (which kennels) and "what" (pedigree) went into making my dogs.

Unless you can say the same for the results of mixing two breeds for a "standard", you ARE just as well off adopting from a shelter or rescue at a far lesser fee.

The mixed breeeds, well a little of this and a little of that and throw in some extra. Didn't make them less loveable, but it DID make them a darned sight less expensive!

I'm pretty sure you will find most posters have no problem with those who own one of the designer pups. It's a problem with those who come on here, specifically looking for one (and not knowing what it is they are looking for) and with those who breed them.

***Edited By: pyrmom on 6/29/2005 12:12:03 PM***
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