The difference with your crop and an experienced vet crop is , your ears have no shape what so ever , it looks like you layed the ears down on the table and made one straight cut , no natural arches. I am the proud owner of 3 min pins two with natural erect ears and one with natural folded ears. I also own two boxers both with cropped ears so I am not agaisnt ear cropping because my pin aren't done. When I took my boxers in to get cropped I knew exactley what I wanted I wanted the ears to be long and with shape your ears don't have that. Ear cropping in my opinion is an art and it should be left up to someone that has a good eye for perfection not by someone who makes a ruler staright line then cuts. Honestly most people who have any knowledge of dogs and anyone wwho researches breeds wouldn't buy a dog that had its ears cropped by a breeder at 6 weeks specially a min pin. Try taping the pups ears natural you will get alot nicer looking ears.
I have read all previous posts and have a question. I purchased a Min Pin pup at 7 weeks old from a breeder with natural ears. She gave us the number for her vet (who will do the ear cropping) to have his ears cropped at 12 weeks. Now it's causing a big debate between my husband and I about whether we should EVEN crop his ears. We previously owned a red min pin who had her ears cropped and while I love the floppy puppy ears on the new puppy, he just doesn't look like a min pin to me... can anyone give me any reason to not crop his ears? I've never had to crop a dogs ears before and I'm kinda worried as to how our children will respond to him coming home from the vet with a huge bandage on his head... let alone how he will feel after it's all said and done. I had been told that if you don't crop a min pin's ears, there is a possibility of ear infections. I just want to be as informed as possible before taking him to the vet to have the procedure done, or deciding not to have them done. I contacted the vet we had for our other min pin who passed away in August, and they do not crop... so it looks like the breeder's vet is who we'd be going to and I've never seen a crop done by this vet. Is it crazy to ask the vet for pictures of previous min pins he has cropped?
I think minpin croping is done just for show, Im sure it used to have a reason though. If its just a pet I dont see a reason to do it unless you want the croped look.
as for reasons not to do it, putting them under can be very hard on the little guys, You could end up with a bad job, and from what I herd they are not so easy to care for. The minpin I had, had his ears croped when we got him so we didnt have to worry about it.
I know that others on here will know more about this then i do. But if it was me unless there was a good reason I dont think id have it done. Id buy one that had croped ears but I wouldnt have it done after i got one. I love the look of croped ears and docked tails but if they are not done with I get them they wont be done unless they have to be.
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Its all really a matter of personal preference. There are obviously more reasons these days not to crop than there is to crop as they are not as part of what they were intended for originally. A good crop by a good vet really causes minimal discomfort for the dog. though taping can be a real pain at times.
I for one choose to only crop the ears of the ones I plan to show. Also, unlike the Dobes, Min Pin ears can be done at an older age, so you do have more time to decide.
As far as asking the vet for pics of past crops, I doubt most vets have that available. Your best bet is to decide ahead of time what style crop you want, talk to your vet about it before surgery day, even take a pic with you to show what you want it to look like.
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" Also, unlike the Dobes, Min Pin ears can be done at an older age, so you do have more time to decide. " <--------Thank you! I didn't know that! I loved the crop on our dog Halo's ears, but her breeder had them done previous to us purchasing her (she was 3 when we got her) by her vet and alas, we have since moved and no longer have that vet (altho I've heard they no longer do cropping)... the breeder gave us the name of her vet and he's done all of their min pins ears so we'd be using him if we choose to do this.... I think I may take a picture of our Halo with us to the vet to show the type of crop we want (I loved her ears)... thank you to all of you who replied to my post, you are very helpful!
I was looking up ear cropping sites as I have a little MinPin that was cropped by a VET....and her ears are curling back at the tops and I was wondering if there is any tricks or hints that anyone could suggests...I must say I was appalled when I read the lady who does her own cropping....sounds like a butcher to me!
Thank you for the reply. I have been rubbing her ears with vitamin e oil and massaging them upwards and low and behold they are straightening out. It almost feels like it was cartelage built up or something. Either way they are turnng out beautifully. :)
Well I just want every one to "get a grip" I have worked as a surgical tech and removed all sorts of things in the office including toe bones under a local. What is the difference? A local usually makes you a little tired anyway. They can't feel what you are doing and you can make it as sterile as possible for the situation. You people have vivid imaginations. Puppy looks up and sees mommy or daddy touching their ears but can't feel it. They don't relate the after pain to the surgical proceedure they are not people. They are small little doggies who won't remember much about their puppyhood anyway. For all you know this person could be a vet who just didn't want to argue with a bunch of hot heads or opinionated people. Just because they are hobby breeders that doesn't mean the guy isn't a surgeon. Alot of presumming around here.
Many states now, too are requiring any crops be done by a VET only. The rest of the states are trying to outlaw it all together. Some are even planning to not give a grandfather clause with this and even with adult dogs are required to show documentation that a certified vet performed the crop.
While I do find this a bit over baord, I do agree that ear crops are not to be done by amatuers who are not versed in medicine, location of blood vessels, sterile technique, etc. Not to mention most all crops that I have seen done by these 'kitchen cropping hobbyists' are horrible improper crops to boot.
I am a hobby breeder too, but am strict on conformation and personality first, then colors.
We have 7 Rat Terriers (2 boys, 3 adult girls, and two little girl pups). I am proud that after 9 years, I now breed rat terriers with special colors! Lemon, chocolate, blue, pearl, etc. My ratties are 6 to 11 lbs.
I just aquired 3 min pin girls, and was wondering myself, about the ears, and how it is done. One girl has a natural tail and ears, and the other two were done before we got them. All are wonderful, and beautiful.
We also own 3 (one boy, two girls) wonderful Chihuahuas, but we dont want to breed the "teacup" types that have so many health/sugar/seizure problems.
I bob my own dog's tails, but do not do dewclaws, unless they are on the back foot, because the dogs use these as we use our thumbs. I dont think I would want to do the ears on the min pins, but let each person who picks their pup, decide if THEY want it done.
**** No websites permitted on the forum. *Also it is called 'docking' tails, not bob. No dogs do not use the dewclaws as their thumbs. In most breeds, unless they are there for a specific working purpose, the dewclaw serves absolutely no purpose.
I disagree about their dewclaws being used in the same way we use our thumbs. Give your dog a bone/chew toy, and watch the way it holds it with its paws, and those upper toes called declaws. They use them, they need them. God designed them to use them too.
Sorry about the website thing, I am new, didnt know. I haven't gotten pics of the two newest Minature Pincher girls yet. Will soon. The two sisters, are 11" tall, the other girl, Mandy, is 10".
I am in Love with this breed! I had no idea how much fun they are, how intelligent! They come up second in my fav's now! Rat Terriers first.
Mandy sleeps with us, goes most everywhere with us, etc. She was perfectly trained to a "T" when we got her. NO flaws according to me! Her personality is so great! shar
PS. How do I put a pic with my profile on here? I noticed some cute ones!
How else do they hold something without using their legs/paws? All mine have had their dews removed at 3-5 days and have never had them to use, some are born without dews....any dog, dews or not use their paws to hold their bone....what else would they use to hold it still while they chew? Nothing IMO to do with the dews. I have no issue with anyone leaving them on. If they are only breeding pets it doesnt make a different as far as breed standard or show anyway so to each his own I say.
I am disgusted with you lot. How can you crop a puppies ears, or even cut a tail or dew claws. Here in Australia it will all be banned. Tail docking is, and I am sure ear cropping is. Soon dew claws will be. Please remind me to stay out of this section.