Oh i have read some of this persons other postings. Like how touching fur is like having an O****sm. Sick i say. Just some of what this person wrote made me wanna puke literally. How can it be ok to where some animals skin on your back...YUCK!!!
i'm new here - but i have to say I agree with pope. i dont' know how this got so blown out of proportion.
this started out as a question about doggie car restraints which I was curious about because i have a 6 month old maltese that hates being crated in the car so I was looking for some good, solid information. Not a complete b*tchfest. People have all kinds of different views on how to raise their children, let alone their dogs. Some people compare dogs to kids because they don't have or can't have kids and dogs are the closest thing they have? Did you ever think of that? Please stop ostricizing people for doing what they feel is right.
Again, some animals have more value than others. Most of you EAT meat... animals.... how many own leather belts, coats, shoes? Or what about fish/chickens? They have feelings too I suppose.
P.S. if any one would like to adopt a child....here you go. There are well over 200 in my State alone. Most of them are out of there cute 'puppy' stage, so they are left to ROT in residential treatment facilies, group homes, or foster care....... www.mare.org
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The restraint we use looks like a harness, but that has a large loop attached to it and connects to the seatbelt. My guys also hate crates and I have found the seatbelts a safe way to restrain them without having to deal with the whining from the crate.
I had a seatbelt for my dogs many moons ago(15 years?) so they have been out there for quite awhile. It had a central padded strap that went down the chest, not across, and you put the car seatbelt thru the rear loop and buckled it. I always put my dogs in the back seat, never the front, and it was a pretty good restraint system. I now crate dogs during car rides, but as someone said thats hard to do with with a small car and big dog. I think it all comes down to how much you value your dogs and what your willing to do for them, I do not feel that they should be loose in vehicle, and cats shouldn't either, I've had a kitten get right under my brake pedal a long time ago, never again! I was seatbelting my dogs 15 years ago so its not a big deal to me.
Regardless, I am opposed to anymore legislature telling us what we can and cannot do, while I love animals I feel more should be done for children, and that existing laws should be enforced. There are already so many animal protection laws on the books that are not being enforced, and they just keep making more.
Dogs are property, in a way children are property too. We own animals, chickens do not have rights, and there is a huge difference between animal welfare and animla rights. You do realize that the true goal of PETA, DDAL and HSUS is to completely end pet ownership? To stop all breeding of domestic animals, hunting, all eating of meat and to take our pets away from us. If you don't realize that you need to do some research about the Animal Rights domestic terrorism here in the US.
When I was young I felt the way that Merico andRiley felt, my dog was more important to me than anyone, I never wanted kids, dogs were people and worthy of more rights than stupid humans were. Well, I've aged, I'm a mother, and while I wouldn't choose a strangers life over one of my beloved dogs, I would sacrifice them all for just one member of my family. Things change with age.
no henchwench, things do not always change with age. i am 50. i have raised 4 children of my own and 2 that were left on my doorstrp when they were young. in kindergarten and 1st grade. i also took care of two of my grandsons while their mother got her life in order. when they were gone,and with my kids all grown, i missed having people to care for. my dogs became those "people". there is no one , besides my own human children and grandchildren, that i love anymore than my dogs. we do consider them as "children". if anyone has a problem with the way that hubby and i feel about our dogs, its THEIR problem. we are one big happy family here.
I cant imagine my hubby putting his $5,000 Night Champion Coondog loose in the back of his truck on the way to a hunt. One sharp stop , dog goes flying out and so goes $5,000 worth of property dead as a wedge! I'm glad my husband has sense enough to protect our property even if it's just a dog! As for my pitt babies I dare anyone to transport them with out proper restraint cause lord knows if they ever got loose and they got into the wrong hands! i'd never sleep at night knowing I put them in danger. I love my kids more than my dogs but I'm still a responsible pet owner.
Not me. I have two young girls(4 and 6) and I would give ANYTHING for them. In a heartbeat. But I also love my dogs and I would do anything for them as well.
I also am in the elite club that puts their seat belt on for even half a block worth of driving. My kids are ALWAYS seatbelted in in their carseats and my dogs are ALWAYS secured in their crates. We bought a van PURPOSELY so that we could fit two extra large crates in it, and still have room for my kids to be safely seated in their seats. We are getting a small car(a dodge neon or a mitsubishi eclipse) and my dogs will NOT ride in that car. Not ever. Want to know why? Because I cannot put them in their crates. Same as I would NEVER put my kids into a car that didn't have seatbelts.
Dogs riding in the back of an open truck is STUPID!! Tied in they are actually in more danger then being untied. Unless they are dual tied(tied from both sides of the truck) Have you ever seen a dog that was tied up jump over the edge of a truck and not be able to hit the ground? Trust me, you do not want to. The dog should be confined to a crate. When we take our truck(in the winter) we put our dogs in the back, and even though we have a completely sealable canopy on our truck, we still put the dogs in their crates in the back. It is just responsible. Also, if you have a breed like mine(chow chow), that is already considered a "viscious" breed, it is better for them not to even have that small smidgen of a chance to be added to that statistic. This goes for all who own a "viscious" dog; (Pits, Dobies, Rotties, Chows, etc.)
Foxfurlover, I just wanted to say that I also love fox fur. I find it gorgeous. I, however, prefer that it is left ON the fox. I do not eat meat, and I do not have leather in my home. Everything that I want, I prefer it to be simulated. I would NEVER want to have a innocent animal murdered so that I had a coat to wear. My husband has an awesome job and he makes a very good income, he could make all the money in the world and I would still never want a dead animals fur to wear around. There are so many faux furs that are almost an exact replicat of fur, why would you buy a real fur coat? I think that you also have a few disturbing issues that you need to work out. Anyone that posts on a fur fetish forum, has issues. Regardless, I feel that you have ill intent with regard to your breeding of dogs. I do not see their best interest when it comes to your mind. I only see dollar signs with you. What breed to you raise?
Also, I am not a PETA supporter(used to be before I found out what they are really like) I am just a person who cares alot about animals. There are a TON of people trying to help the kids in foster homes. The kids are not being euthanized every day though; are they? Kids can grow up and learn and move on with their lives......animals can't. Animals in the shelters DO need more help then the kids in foster care. Yes it would be nice if everyone had a home. But at least they have somewhere where they can grow up, even if it is not the best place. Animals in the shelters and rescues typically only have a short time limit before they are to killed. Euthanized because of people who bred for no regard to their animals except money(any of this sounding familiar?).........
Why you do god knows what to your poor dead fox and leave us animal likers alone(I was going to say animal lovers, but I think that you and I have different meanings of that word) :(