When defurring the ears... its getting all the hair out of the inside of the ear. Like when you flip their ears back and look at all the inside twists and turns... you get all the hair out of that.
I had the ladies at Petsmart do it the last time. From the feel of it... they used a powder that makes it easier to yank out. Then usually a good wash at home gets the rest of the powder (after a day or two) out. I used some stuff once at Petco on Kiba. Followed the directions. Held up her ear to look inside and that stuff had like clumped all the fur together. It was so uncomfortable and painful... she just layed their sighing while I tried getting it all out cuz it felt so god. LoL.
Plus its only like 12.oo plus nail trim when PetsMart does it.
I'm sorry you are going through so much with Riley's ears. Springers have such heavy ears that prevent the air from getting inside. The environment inside the ears stays warm and moist allowing all the nasty stuff to grow.
I would shave off all the hair on the underside of his ear and around the ear canal. I know it kind of looks ugly but shaving the hair off the outside of the ear will also help the ears to be lighter.
That's the only thing I can think of short of surgery. I have a friend with a golden who ended up having the surgery on both ears and it worked wonders.
Why am I annoying? Because I turned around and accused you of being your favorite insult? Immature?
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooo sorry, it was pope that said accused catlover of following people around (I'm dyslexic and can't read!!!)...and I believe that was for good reason, catlover's not the only one concerned for the well-being of katz' pets. Still, the fact remains, you did the same to sienna, did you not? But that wasn't even good reason! Can you not respond to my "babble" because your "infinite" wisdom doesn't know how to, little girl? This isn't the only hypocrisy you've been caught in. You have alot to learn! And a lot of growing up to do!
Did you ever try folding the ears back and jsut allowing free air flow for a couple hours a day? I know a couple of dogs its helped. I didn't read through the whole thread but depending on what is causing it that may help.
I will share something with you Riley, and I am in no way accusing you of not taking care of your dog, because, from your posts, I believe that you take excellent care of your babies.
However, I thought you might like to know that he is not the only dog that has suffered chronic ear infections.
I had a yellow Lab years ago, that I adopted as an older dog. He had lived next to the river since puppyhood and swam almost every day of his life.
The inside of the dogs ears were constantly wet (at his previous home) and evidently the previous owner was not dilligent enough about cleaning his ears, each time he came from the water.
He developed chronic ear infections, repeatedly. That owner spent thousands of dollars on Jazz and his ears. But to no avail the infections kept returning.
The only thing that did not change, is that the dog was allowed to swim in the river on a frequent basis.
Now Labs, like Spaniels have the floppy ears, as opposed to upright ears. Being that they are floppy, they tend to keep the water or bacteria inside the ear canal and the air circulation out.
Jazz had surgeries on his ears prior to my adopting him. The infections kept returning and it is my take on the situation that it was due, for the most part, by the continual exposure to the river water.
He did suffer massive hearing loss as he got older, which was caused by the chronic infections. The infections caused major scarring of the tissues in each ear, narrowing the ear canal, until they were so small you could barely fit a cotton ball into them to clean his ears.
By the time I got the dog, the damage was already done, there was no hope for any healing of any type.
I believe that you swim your dogs regularly, which is fantastic exercise. I, myself, swam my other Labs 3 to 4 times a week and luckily none of them ever suffered the type of ear trauma that poor Jazz did.
You may want to stop swimming him for a period of time, to see if the ears show any sign of clearing up. I would hate for your beautiful boy to have to go through what Jazz did in his life time.
Sometimes animals, like people can be affected differently by the environment. Perhaps Rileys' immune system just can't handle the microbes in the water where he swims. I know he dearly loves to swim, but if you would stop swimming him for say a month or 6 weeks, to give the ears a chance to heal without further introduction of foreign water (as opposed to sterile water) I think you may find him healing.
Good luck with Riley, he is lucky that he has you as his mom.
Heather, maybe it is because you aren't around that often anymore to see it, but the posts aren't only about that subject anymore. It is any little thing now.
There are several other people that don't like other people, or the way that they do things that just ignore posts because it is pointless to try to press your beliefs on them when they are so dead set in the their ways. Why give your attention or waste a second of thought on someone you so tremendously dislike? By being SO predictable and handing out little neatly wrapped gift packages of attention to those desperately seeking it, I hate to tell ya, you "lose"...
It isn't wise to behave that way, then to turn around and behave like a hypocrite calling other people names like "mean" and "hateful" when they start threads geared toward a specific person and their practices.
"am soooooooooooooooooooooooooo sorry, it was pope that said accused catlover of following people around (I'm dyslexic and can't read!!!)..."
Way to take everything that I said COMPLETELY out of context... I appreciate your desire to stand up for someone else on the board whom you obviously felt was being attacked... but by calling names and being sarcastic you've completely defeated your initial purpose.
Thanks for the clarification Pope. I appreciate it. And you're right, I do lose. I'm no good at arguing with children! I remember, back in the day, when I was a child and knew everything and was the epitome of maturity and wisdom, there was no arguing with me then either!
Um, Sonja, my post had no reference whatsoever to your response to me. I was being sarcastic based on my own self, which like it or not, that's me. I appreciate that you teach your son to not let his abililties hold him back. I hope you also teach him to ignore ignorant people that try to make him feel otherwise. I've found that people like that suffer from low self esteem or are upset because they have allowed something to hold them from doing what they want.
I've gone through all the posts, and well, I'm not the one calling names. I told Ashley to grow up, yes, she needs to take the advice that she so often spews out to anyone who says something she doesn't like. I said she's acting like a 2 year old, yes, and she is...I dealt with this very type of petty stuff when I taught preschool. Someone else gave her more credit, and aged the behavior at 6. I've taught 1st grade too, and they still behave like that, so I'll be nice and change it to 6 also! I do apologize for those that disagree, but I get tired of every time I come on here LOR is spouting off her little miss know it all attitude, attacks other posters, and then repeatedly does things that she has attacked other people for doing. And when someone doesn't agree with her, this 18 year old calls them immature. Two things I can't stand in this world are excuses and hypocrites!
***Edited By: HeatherFeather on 1/7/2007 10:35:51 PM*** Reason: add
HeatherFeather-I'm no good at arguing with children! I remember, back in the day, when I was a child and knew everything and was the epitome of maturity and wisdom, there was no arguing with me then either!
I am twenty four years old Heather. I did not insult you in any way, I'd appreciate if you did the same for me.
***Edited By: sweetgmichelle on 1/7/2007 10:40:33 PM*** Reason: THANKS FOR THE PATRONIZING COMMENT HEATHER.
Bypassing all the arguing. I totally agree with the plucking any hair in the ear. I thought you said lab, but even if it were, I stand firm on the advice I gave. Any floppy earred dog can be prone to ear infections. The ones with continous growing hair like poodles, maltese, cockers. Need their ear hair pulled to keep the airflow in the air ok. I plucked this gunky wax plug from a rescue poodle, cleaned and plucked his ear hair and for the past couple weeks, he just had a tiny bit of wax to clean.
Saddly, hearing can be lost if infections are not kept at bay. Find a product that stops the yeast, mites and bacteria from forming, and it will be alllllllll good. Like the product I meantioned.
***Edited By: Puttin510 on 1/7/2007 10:47:27 PM*** Reason: fix