I've been working at an animal hospital for the past 5 1/2 years, and I've never heard of this "shot". But honestly even if you don't get $ from these poor pups you should really spay/neuter your dogs. It prevents future 'unwanted' puppies from happening, and it's seriously healthier for your dogs (but just remember it's never to late to fix them with a good vet). I really hope everything works out and the pups find great homes. Although I truly have a love for the breed (Pit Bulls I don't own one yet), but I've only paid for one of my dog's, a purebred Boxer, a shelter price of $50 + a $50 bond because she wasn't spayed at the time which I did receive back. My Lab was free, as was my mom's 7 week old (at the time) Mini Poodle. Honestly I don't think I would pay for a dog other than a shelter or adoption fee. Well best of luck with all your 'kids'.
me too I wasn't trying to sound mean or evil or anything. We may fix her because we heard if she has too many litters it can shorten her life but we have to talk it over first. (I didn't say anything to my fiance yet.)
I think most people get mixed pups for free. I often see people giving away these unwanted pups out of a box at wal mart or something.
Those who pay its not much. Maybe $50 a pup. I've seen purebred Pits for that or Labs for that matter so a cross would probably be about the same. Fencing is a little expensive (we've been doing major fencing here), seems you'd be lucky to even break even after all the vet visits, vaccines, wormings, puppy food, ect. I don't see how there will be left over fence money. No guarantee they will have homes by 8 weeks either, so you might have to feed/vacc longer. You should check out the prices of puppy care.
Getting her spayed would have prevented this. Breeding her to a purebred APBT wouldn't have been much better. Especially if you don't have room to keep any and sounds like you are just breeding pet quality dogs. For maybe some quick money and so your female can just have a litter.
"No, we were looking for a Pit bull, and then my father in law let her run off without checking to see if the dog still had his balls and guess what he did. But dear dad doesn't believe she's pregnant or that it's his fault and he wants to throw the mixed puppies in the river. he isn't watching her and the puppies when I go away in November." (Emphasis added - LL)
pitluvr New Member Joined:10/6/2007 Posts:9 Posted: 8:28:40 PM 10/6/2007 We would keep one of the puppies but the two dogs I have are technically already rescues and we have 6 cats besides not enough room for another dog unless it really comes down to it.
pitluvr New Member Joined:10/6/2007 Posts:11 Posted: 9:44:44 PM 10/6/2007 me too I wasn't trying to sound mean or evil or anything. We may fix her because we heard if she has too many litters it can shorten her life but we have to talk it over first. (I didn't say anything to my fiance yet.)
pitluvr New Member Joined:10/6/2007 Posts:12 Posted: 12:31:55 AM 10/7/2007 we can't keep a mixed puppy cuz if we don't fix her and mate her with a pit we want to keep a pure breed
WHAT?!?!?! Please do the right thing and get this poor dog fixed...you were planning on breeding a rescue dog? Who adopted this dog out to you? Surely they had no idea that you were planning to breed her - or was she a pup that was too young to be fixed upon adoption? If you don't have enough room for the "oops" puppies, I strongly recommend that you don't have a planned litter of "purebred" pups either!
If no one wants a MIXED breed dog with Pit in it, what makes you think someone will want a purbred, except evil people looking to do evil things. Im sorry but i agree with EVERYONE. You seem to care about her alot and obviously, as said above, want to make sure she lives longer, so get her spayed! If you want another purbred Pit Bull go out and get one, dont breed her because when you breed her she will. most likely, have more than one puppy. And, as stated above, you want to keep one, what will happen to the others when no one but dog fighters want them? Are you just going to "drown them in the river"???
This makes me angry quite honestly... You do not know anything about breeding and you are considering doing it again which is really upsetting I see breeding in her future which quite honestly I think is a mistake. Is she a show or working dog? Has she been health tested? What is her bloodline like and what issues and faults are carried in it?
I don't know if you read my thread on to breed or not to breed or if you really know anything about APBTs so I think this need to be put up
APBTs are being bred by way to many who have no clue what they are doing with little concern to what will happen to the pups
Breeding is #1 a life long commitment. If you don't have the time or the money to do it right and the knowledge of bloodlines and breeding basics in dogs it should not even be something you are considering. C-secs and complications can run you into the thousands if something goes wrong. Sometimes pups are born with defects as well which have to be put down on have medical intervention. Add the that shots worming prenatal and post natal care for the dam and thats a whole lot of money. I pray she has an easy pregnancy and whelp for both your sakes
Also there is a sexually transmitted disease dogs can get from breeding to an infected mate. Was either she or the male tested for it?????
There are also many genetic diseases such as hip dysplasia, luxating patellas, heart issues etc that can run in the breed that your female and or the lab may have or carry that you can totally be unaware of that can be passed to the pups
Were I live every other block is a pit that is well loved I am always stopping a dogwaler even when I am driving. They will find ood homes because we won't let them go to bad ones. She is a technically a rescue we never let her get in the shelters because we love her and I love my fiance. She was always HIS dog, but when he moved out his dad couldn't care for her, so we took her in. And my poodle, was my dad's but he died. We don't let dogs we care about go into bad homes or shelters so give me a ******* break!
***Edited By: lpn169 on 10/8/2007 12:29:48 AM*** Reason: Use clean language
I have petted each and everyone one of the pit around my area and only the ones that came from shelters have scratches they are all great with people and other dogs. In fact I went to the gay pride feast in philly in may and met 6 of them and 3 were rescues that had the kindest hearts. you think pit bull and shut your mind so shut up. not everyone thinks the way you do and not everyone hurts their dogs.
If the dog has papers the either UKC or ADBA will have them on file so you can contact them easily for a duplicate set. They are both very helpful orgs and answer promptly to e-mails and phone calls.
If you never sent in the papers to reg the dog in your name then... DNA testing through the registries is done by a cheek swab not a blood test and both parents of the dog would have to have been DNA-P for that to be proof of heritage. Even then unless the dog was already registered to your family the original breeder would have to be the one to get the papers and not you. The registry does not allow it to be done any other way
There is no blood testing involved what so ever. You may be confused with the new genetic testing that has recently come about which would not prove the dog was papered and does not at this time have to do with the registries
You need have a thick skin to own this breed because many do not like them or are afraid and that is a FACT.
Right now like I said you have a lot to learn
Just look at what you posted about many being rescues and scared up in your area from being mistreated and dumped. Suer they may have good homes now , but what did they go through before they were there. Think about what you are typing...
APBTs are an awesome breed. They are fantastic family dogs and all around athletes when in the right hands
If you would bother to check out some of the things I posted about instead of getting defensive you'd learn and hopefully be able to do better by the dog and pups.
Patch O' Pits , Home to Greatly Loved Ch GRCH, Therapy, & Agility APBTs "When it Rains Play in the mud"
This isnt just about if they have good hearts. Deep down there are other things going on that could really effect these pups, even if you breed to a purebred. Genes for example, personality, traits, qualities, ect. And like someone said, because she is a rescue you have no clue if she is purebred or not and i dont beleive there is a way to find out. So do her and your family a big favor and have her spayed. I am personally not aginst breeding but i am when the person breeding has not a single idea of how to do it right, and properly. If you want to breed fine. But just now you are causing to the already over poulation of unwanted dogs in this world and at least one probably wont make it because no one wants a Pit Bull let alone a Pit Bull mix. People know the traits in purebred Pit Bull and temperment but when you have a cross who knows what other genes it has. Now i am not aginst Pit Bulls, i have one myself, and i am not trying to be mean, just straight up honest!
"They will find "g"ood homes because we won't let them go to bad ones"
People can be very hard to read. They may come up to you and look like perfect people and get them home and start fighting them. There is no way to be 100% sure they will not go to bad homes. Think about that.
Wow so breed a rescue to make more rescues? Thats genius.
So someone is asking for advice, getting good advise but gets mad at people trying to help? Makes no sense. Of course any ignorant person who would breed a dog without a pedigree doesn't really care about quality, the breed, ect. They could potentially produce nearly an entire litter with health problems by not having the pedigree information. They obviously don't care. Papers doesn't mean the dog is well bred.
Even good breeders with waiting list sometimes end up with an extra pup that doesn't sell or with an older pup that they held back. Or the homes don't pass the screening. How can a byb find all their pups good homes when its so hard for real breeders? I doubt they will get real, good forever homes.
Then wanting extra $$, thats really caring. Looks like the pups won't be getting any good care, since that cost $$ and no profit would be made.
Pitluvr, you came asking for advice and it seems that you're offended because the advice wasn't what you were looking for. If you wanted to just hear an arbitrary figure without taking the well being of the dog to heart, why didn't you ask one of the many APBT owners in your neighborhood? Either way it goes, with this unplanned litter or a planned one, it would have been irresponsible on your part to breed this dog, is what everyone is trying to tell you. It SOUNDS like you have a profit motive and not the welfare of the dog in mind. If wrong, I stand corrected but this is what your posts are saying. I don't see that anyone spoke to you with disrespect so why are you taking things so harshly just because people care about your dog?