I personally don't consider them an appropriate breed for a first time, or inexperienced dog owner. And I would never buy one from a breeder that I didn't know bred for temperament first, as opposed to the random 'Hey You have a male pit bull? Awesome, I've gota female who just went into heat! type breedings we see so often in our area of the country. What are the parent dogs like? Are htey people agressive? Are they well socialized, taken out into public frequently, and exposed to other dogs and animals, etc? Does your brother have any other pets or animals in the household, as they can have a high prey drive. Is he willing to do obedience training?
Never trust a tall dwarf... he's lying about something.
He stays with us. We have 5 other dogs. I'm trying to convince him not to get it because he doesn't have personal experience with dogs. I don't know of any trainers around here. We haven't seen the parents. The pup is a blue nose pit. I told him this is not a good breed for him. He's had 2 rotts in the past other wise he's had small breed dogs. But he's convinced he can handle the pup.
He can handle a PUP, yes, anyone can. It's when they grow up that you need to know what you're doing. The pup would deffidently need training, socializing, lots of exercise, and attention. I am with minnyar on this one, this is not the breed for someone inexperienced.
Goldenlvr, how old is your brother? Is there a possibility that when he moves out from living with you that he may not be able to take the dog with him? Then you'll have 6 dogs. I would check out the breeding of this dog at the very least.
I would put a nix on the pup, period. Does not matter what breed the pup is, he himself, is not established. He lives with you and you already have 5 dogs. Unless you look at it as if you were getting the puppy for yourself, then tell him no.
If you are a dog and your owner suggests that you wear a sweater, suggest that he wear a tail.
Just randomly from his friend? Does he know the history of the dog ir anything like that, temperment, good with kids/pets, ect.? If not i would NOT consider getting it. How old is the dog he is looking to get? I myself have a APBT mix and got him when he was about 9 months and he did just fine but ALOT of things factor in.
Has anyone thought of homeowners insurance, or trying to rent an apartment with a pit? Esp. because you have other dogs, if one of the other does somthing stupid, the pit could take the fall, and you can be sued.
I would never put one in an inexperianced dog owners hands. They can be extremly difficult to handle, and very few people/trainers want anything to do with them. I love them, but I can have one or my homeowners insurance will be canceled. I am having a hard time finding any insurance angency that will accept them for less then an arm and leg. good luck
[Quote]"He stays with us. We have 5 other dogs. I'm trying to convince him not to get it because he doesn't have personal experience with dogs. I don't know of any trainers around here. We haven't seen the parents. The pup is a blue nose pit. I told him this is not a good breed for him. He's had 2 rotts in the past other wise he's had small breed dogs. But he's convinced he can handle the pup."[/quote]
I'm sure you are a wonderful family and your brother means well, but I think he definitely should do a ton of research before even considering getting a pup of any breed. Every dog breed is different so it is important to learn the traits of the breed.
pet peeve of mine is when people call American Pit Bull Terriers by nose and or coat colors... "blue Nose". A pit bull with a blue nose is no different than one with a black nose or red nose. It is not a type or different variety of APBT . Nose and coat colors are just that colors. There are many colors in APBTs none are rare or more special than the next color
Like already mentioned if you already have 5 dogs which is a lot I don't think it is a good idea . Unless of course he is very responsible none of these dogs will be left unattended with the pup. He will be trained and socialized. Does he have time for daily exercise , pits are very active dogs. Another major concern is that the dog will not get dumped if as an adult he doesn't get along with the dogs you have.
helpful sites to look at are: workingpitbull realpitbull www.apbtconformation.com
Hope that helps
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He likes the breed. He's being very stubborn about it, he's gonna be 20 on Dec. 23, he may be moving to Nebraska witha friend. I don't know when but the dog won't stay with me, if he leaves it he'd have to take it, it won't be dumped like some kinda garbage or give it a new home. He doesn't know the pups history. It's about 10 wks old. I personally don't want it but I'm haveing trouble convinceing him it's not a good breed for him. He does have time for it being he's home all day, none of my dogs will be alone at all with the pit.
I think that if your brother is living with you than you should just say no.
Best case scenario, he learns alot about the breed, decides to take him, and both live long healthy, productive lives. Worst case scenario, he buys the pup, cause it's "cool", has all this responsibility he doesn't want, the poor pup doesn't get the training and attention it needs and before you know it, the pup "has to go." Then another pit is being dropped off at a shelter, and put down because it's a pit and has no training.....
Pits are just as awesome as any other dog breed, and like a few people have said on here already, need extra care,training, etc, so they are never in a situation where they have to be euthanized "because it is a pit."
ESPECIALLY with this breed, he needs to REALLY think about it and research it and not just get him cause it's a cool breed to have.
That young i would say go for it because you have plenty of time to get it use to other things and get the basic training it needs NOW. But if you have never had a dog before it wouldn't be my first choice of dog for you. They are very strong and very straight forward dogs.
"He's being very stubborn about it, he's gonna be 20 on Dec. 23, he may be moving to Nebraska with (a) friend. I don't know when but the dog won't stay with me, if he leaves it he'd have to take it, it won't be dumped like some kinda garbage or give it a new home."
Good for you for standing up and saying right now if you get this dog it IS NOT going to stay here when you leave. But i have to be straight forward here. Dont get the dog. If he is unsure of HIS future, who knows about the dogs. I would not get the dog and when he decides if he wants to move or not THEN consider getting the dog or wait until he gets where he is going to get one. Because if he gets the dog and decides to leave he will have to take it with him because as you have stated it WOULD NOT stay with you. Or if he decides to get it and stay, better for the dog and better for you guys. Either way good luck and hope my advice helps!
"That young i would say go for it because you have plenty of time to get it use to other things and get the basic training it needs NOW. But if you have never had a dog before it wouldn't be my first choice of dog for you. They are very strong and very straight forward dogs."
All that doesn't matter. He doesn't know the history, the pup is $50 from his friend. Sounds like a spur of the moment or accidental breeding. Who knows what type of temperament/health issues he could be setting himself of for. Is someone with little experience really set up to deal with something like that. He can't change the genes of the dog by getting it any younger. Seems like a huge risk to may. I'd say forget about it.
My one pit/Am bulldog mix was liberated from a bad situation when she was barely 5 wks old. She was full of ticks, badly nourished, and by as early as 12 wks showed signs of having temperment issues. As she got older she developed an assorted types of health problems from thyroid problems to knee and hip to severe dog aggression. All of these as a result from recreational breeding of dogs for that perfect "bad-az" dog.
She has been a huge handful and a huge expense. But the difference between me and maybe someone else is that I felt she deserved a chance at a good life. She's 5 yrs old now and I know her life expectancy will not be as long as a healthy dog. I always have to monitor her to make sure she doesn't injure another dog, (my other dog included.)When she goes to the Vet there's arrangements that the waiting room is cleared of other dogs and cats before we come in. But I've made the choice to see it through till the end.
Another thing is, a pitbull does not fully mature until almost 3 yrs of age. At around that age you may or may not see a total personality change in a pitbull. There again it depends on the breeding.
So, if your friend is not fully ready to commit to these types of problems, I say stear clear of this type of dog.
I just want to thank PatchOPits for the info on color! I have always wondered why people would call a pit a "red nose" or anything else. Kind of like a person saying, "well I have a yellow lab-it's NOT a black lab." A lab is a lab is a lab, same as a pit is a pit.
Also, when you say he is home all day-does that mean he doesn't even have a job? And why buy ANY dog if you are tentatively planning on moving in the near future? Especially if he's not just moving across town, but apparently, across the country!
The average dog is a nicer person than the average person.
You keep saying he is being very stubborn about it. This in itself does not show maturity on his part. This is YOUR house, there for it is YOUR decision whether to let yet another dog into YOUR house. I would tell him NO. When he moves and has his own place, then he can get a dog. Trust me there are plenty of pits looking for homes, so he can't say he won't be able to find a pup. This pup is not the end all. Make him wait, it would be the mature, responsible thing for him to do.
He's your friend,your partner,your defender your dog.You are his life,his love,his leader. He will be yours faithful and true to the last beat of his heart.You owe it to him to worthy of such devotion
He stays home all day? That means he don't have a job right? No way would I even let that cross my mind as a option for him to get a dog. Dogs are a lot of money. What happens when the dog gets hurt, needs vaccinations, needs altering, food, training, etc? Who will pay for that expense? You?
And when he moves, who's to say he can even take the dog with him. You say that if he can't take the dog with him then he needs to find it a good home? Think about the dog here, that means it would have went from the breeder, to his friend, to your brother to another home? That is four homes for a dog that isn't even a year old. C'mon you need to put the foot down here and tell him NO WAY.