My neighbor owns two Pit Bull Terriers. They have never been taught aggression or attacked anyone or anything before. The dogs were generally thought of as friendly; I myself do not care for Pit Bulls and was a little wary of them all the same.
One Friday night my family and I came home from watching a movie, I believe it was May 6, 2005. We saw one of the neighbor’s Pit Bulls running around the front yard. I went to get out of the car with the intention of getting the dog and bringing it back to its house. The dog charged at me. I immediately got back into the car and slammed the door. The dog threw itself at the car clawing at the door and windows. The kids were screaming. My girlfriend tried to distract the dog so I might get into the house and call the police. The dog was not letting me get to the house. Each time I tried to get out of the car she would attack the car. The dog’s mouth and nose had blood about it and was smearing blood on the window. I did not know where the blood came from and was worried that a person or another animal laying dead in a yard. After, about 15 minutes the owner of the dog came home and immediately the dog ran to him and was now wagging its tail and friendly. He was very apologetic and said the dog was on its cycle and the blood was its own from licking herself. We found that the dog had knocked a few boards loose from his yard and got out.
On May 17, 2005, I came home and my girlfriend’s daughter asked if we had gotten another dog. We own a Golden Retriever. There was one of the neighbor’s Pit Bulls in the back yard with our dog. The Golden Retriever seemed a little wary of the Pit Bull and wanted to come inside. I let our dog in and went out in the back with the Pit Bull. It was the same dog that had attacked the car. It was very friendly and docile. The kids came out and were petting it. Our Golden wanted back outside, so I let him out. The Pit Bull came up to our dog and started sniffing him. Then without warning lunged at the Golden’s neck. I looked around for a shovel or other item to hit the Pit Bull with, I only came up with a door mat. I threw the mat at the dogs and the Pit released our dog momentarily. Our dog ran from the Pit and it lunged again, this time getting the Golden in the midsection, picking him up and slamming our dog into the sliding glass window. Unable to think of any other alternative, I jumped onto the Pit Bull and wrestled it to the ground. I slammed it’s head a few times into the cement and held it down sitting on it’s back, while the children ran into the house screaming, taking our dig with them and closing the door. Now, here I was sitting on this dog, wondering what to do. If I got up it would surely attack me. After a bit, the Pit Bull seemed calm enough, so I picked it up by the back of its head with the strongest death grip you could imagine. The kids opened the door, and I threw the dog out into the yard. I ran into the house and slammed the door. The Pit Bull landed, turned and came to the door, wagging its tail and acting friendly. We all left the house and left it in the back yard. When we came home it was gone. It had left our yard and was out in the neighborhood; eventually the owner came home and took the dog inside. He once again was very apologetic and sincere in remorse for the action of his dog. We thought our dog was ok, yet noticed him bleeding a day later and took him to the vet. The neighbor said he would pay for the vet bill.
On May 24, 2005, my girlfriend came home during her lunch break around 2pm, to find our dog Artie, lying in a pool of blood moaning. The fence was again knocked down between the neighbor’s and our yard, as well as the fence going out into a back alley. She took Artie to the Veterinary Hospital and they began work on him. They said that this was the worst attack they had ever seen on another dog. Both Pit Bulls had come through the fence this time and attacked our dog. I went to the hospital to see our family pet and was horrified at the viciousness of the attack. His Jaw was broken clean through, and he had puncture wounds all over his body including some rather large chunks missing. Pretty much all of the American Canyon police force as well as some City of Vallejo Officers were looking for these dogs, children were getting out of school and were outside playing. They did not find the Pit Bulls until 7pm. The two dogs were in front of a lady’s house eating her cat, in front of a group of kids. The dogs were quarantined by the police. I sat with Artie at the hospital until about 9:45 pm, then, I went home. The vet called me and told me Artie died at around 10pm.
The American Pit Bull Terrier. This is a dog bred to fight. Breeders have chosen the most aggressive, fearless, and strongest over generations, to create a breed of dog that would excel in the Dog Pit Fighting arena, and also use to hunt wild pigs. A pig hunter carries a rifle and a side arm, if you miss the wild pig or just wound it, it does not run away. The pig will charge the hunter and will be intent on killing the hunter. The Pit Bull Terrier, in order to be able to hunt such an animal must itself be fearless, vicious and very tough. The Pit Bull Terrier has been refined though selective breeding to be the best at what it is intended to do. Kill.
Many Pit Bull owners will tell you that they can be a loving, kind and gentle animals, if they are treated right and trained not to be vicious. If a Pit Bull is vicious it is the owner’s fault for training it to be vicious not the dog’s fault.
Nicholas Faibish, a twelve year old who lived in san Francisco, was mauled and murdered, by his own Pit Bulls on Friday, 3 June 2005. The two Pit Bulls were known to be gentle, they did not show any signs of aggression according to the neighbors. The Nicholas’ father, is said to have walked the dogs regularly. The dogs were not chained up and neglected or taught to be mean. They were part of the Faibish family. Kind gentle dogs, never had they hurt or threatened anyone or thing. Neighbors petted the dogs, the mother kissed them on the forehead, these were good dogs. Until, Friday 3 June 2005. The two dogs turned on Nicholas for reasons unknown and murdered him. This was not a stranger entering the house, a new person around the dogs, or a threat to house and home, this was a family member who played with these dogs as puppies. This was a family member who trusted these dogs and loved them. This was a family member that was murdered by his own dogs.
These dogs were not mistreated but rather loved and cared properly for. The Mayor of San Fransico Gavin Newsom said “I know people love their pit bulls, but I gotta tell you, there’s a reason we don’t allow people to have polar bears in their apartments, and mountain lions and the like. They’re dangerous”
Mayor Newsom can not outright ban Pit Bulls inside the city limits, like other cities such as Denver have done. California state law prohibits the banning of dogs based on breed. This is a law that needs to be re examined. Pit Bulls do not belong in an urban environment.
The local Humane society in Solano County will spay or neuter a Pit Bull for free. Why? They charge for every other type of breed. These dogs are dangerous, the kind good ones can turn on their owners or the neighbors and turn into a vicious bloodthirsty killing machine with little or no provocation. What do the bad ones do?
They are good if……. They can be wonderful dogs if….. Why is there always an if? You can pull a Golden Retriever’s tail and you will hurt his feelings, he will not eat you because of it.
oh my gosh, how scary and sad!!! =( That's so weird he apperared friendly, attacked your dog, then wagged his tail. =( I would have attacked the dog if it touched my Golden, too. When you're in that situation, you'll do anything to protect yourself and family.
True, the dogs were bred to kill the enemy. How they decide who the enemy is could be anyone's guess. I dont know what to say to people who dont think they are a threat because I know that their is no way to clear their clouded preception of the breed exept to share with them the stories that I have heard. I am glad that your story is out there for people to hear and hopefully everyone will heed my advice when I say that these dogs are not suitable for family life of any kind. Because they DO kill. Its different with a police dog who is under the influence of their trained master and under complete control, when you hear about a child attacked by a Pit Bull you just want to cry. You must be so heartbroken... I am very sorry for your dreadfully painful loss. You are in my thoughts.....
***Edited By: DontLikeMuttBreeders on 7/1/2005 7:15:57 PM*** Reason: spelling error
True, pit bulls were bred to fight...other animals, which is probably why they attacked your poor golden retriever, and mauled a cat. They are known to be animal aggressive, though if socialized enough, they can be great with other animals. My Shadow (pit-lab mix) loves cats, dogs, birds, fish, and humans all alike. =( Sorry about your doggie.
Moose, I am very sorry to hear about what happened to your poor Artie... I would have done the same thing being in your place, but that dog might actually be dead from my actions because I would not have gotten up off of him, rather hurt him even more and call the cops right away. I can't believe their owner didn't do anything more to try and prevent his dogs from running down the fence (ie build a stronger fence, bring the dogs in when he's not home...etc...)
I am not one that would ever own a Pitbull, but I am also not one that says all Pitbulls are bad. Don't punish the breed, punish the owner. They can say "My dog is the most gentle dog in the world" but who actually knows what goes on in the house. Do you know exactly what they are doing to that poor dog? Are they being mistreated? Are they being beat? Who knows.
Do you not watch the news, animal planet or discovery channel?? Elephants that stampede because their trainers poke and prod them with electric rods, tigers that attack because they get hit...Same deal...
I understand that this breed was invented to fight and not let go, but my cousin owned one that, for the 10 years of his life, never once growled, bared his teeth or displayed dominance whatsoever...He was treated like a big baby (and he made the most of it...lol...) and was an angel with my cousin's 4 year old nephew...The kid would even ride on his back for crying out loud!
Again, I would never own one because they are a very difficult breed to train and understand, but just because they were bred to do their job doesn't mean that they make up their own minds to do stuff. How come nobody gets angry when a different breed attacks and kills? I heard about a year ago that GSD X's attacked their owners little girl and dragged her body in the back yard where her parents found her dead. Does anybody hate GSD's? No, heck no..."they're perfect" apparently. I'm sorry, but no breed of dog is perfect. They have instincts and when mistreated will make the most of those instincts.
***Edited By: canucktigger on 7/1/2005 7:41:34 PM*** Reason: forgot something
Exuse me? same deal? one is provoked and one isnt. One is an elephant and the other is a "pet". I see no relationship at all. By wild animal I meant like a wolf. Is there a single recorded wolf attack? No.
Look, this topic has been argued many times. We all have our opinions and beliefs. We all have our experiences. It is a tragedy what happened to the OP's pet. But please, let us not turn this into another "pitbull vs. society" arguement. No one will win this one.
If you must, please see the past topics. There are many to choose from.
Actually since a Pomeranian has attacked and killed an infant human I"d say that any dog is at risk. I've talked to groomers who say the dog most likely to bite them when being groomed isnt a pit bull, buta cocker spaniel... does that make all cocker spaniels dangerous?
Many pit bulls make wonderful family pets. They are not all 'ticking bombs' as the media and some people make them out to be. And there is a huge and important distinction between dog vs animal aggression and dog vs people aggression.
I'm very very sorry for what happened to your dog and I do hope you prosecute your neighbor to the full extent of the law, as after repeated breakouts by the dogs they were still not properly restrained for the safety of your golden retriever.
Moose... I am sorry to hear about what happened to you and your family. It can be terrible to loose a family member that way.
I still stand very true to the belief that there are not "bad breeds" and absolutely do not condone breed bans. We as humans control every aspect of the domestic dog. When you take great dogs such as APBT's and put them in the hands of irresponsible people, terrible things can happen. The dogs that attacked your dog were owned by an irresponsible person... they had gotten out numerous times, there were many neighborhood problems with the dogs prior to the incident... every attack is caused by something and showed signs prior to the actual attack .. too many times though, people do not notice the signs, or do nothing about it. APBT's are being bred by the hundreds by less than reputable people and are being sold to irresponsible people. That is where the problem is.... if people bred and sold more responsibly, the breed would not be where it is today. I have met thousands of APBT's and not one of them was a bad dog.
If you look at statistics, Golden's, Labs, Cocker's are the top biting breeds there are. In fact I just saw where a Pomeranian killed an infant!! The APBT is going through the same thing the Dobe, Rottie, etc. have gone through in the past. Other breeds are attacking more people than the APBT, but it is the APBT that makes the news. People need to do thier research before they accuse. Instead of buying the media hype, they need to look long and hard at the actual problems and statistics.
Now... APBT's were bred to catch wild game and to fight... ANIMAL AGGRESSION. Any APBT's that were human aggressive were put down and not tolerated. Animal aggression and human aggression are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT forms of aggression. I admit with all the terrible breeding practices these days, many more poor quality dogs are reproducing, but there are many reputable breeders of APBT's with incredible, trustworthy, quality dogs.
I will not get into a yelling match over this... as has been mentioned.. it's been posted and debated about for ages and no one will win. I just think that more people need to open thier eyes to what's really going on before they condone the banning and euthanazia of millions of America's family members. So, they ban bull breeds... what happens when they decide to ban Goldens and Labs or ? Can you imagine the authorities coming to your home and euthanizing your dog? There are better solutions!!!
Moose, I'm sorry about your senseless, and very, very preventable loss. I know you miss Artie, but considering there were kids around and the pits were on the loose for nearly 5 hours, it could have been much worse.
i am so very sorry for what happened to you , your family and your golden retreiver. you have every right to feel the way you do. i am sure i would feel the exact same way had i been in your shoes. i will not try and take those feelings away from you. or try and tell you you are wrong for feeling as you do. the horro you went thru is unimaginable to me. but i would like to say something about BSL in general. i have written this out in other threads so i am just going to copy and paste it here. it is kinda long.
whether you love, like , dislike, or are terrified by pit bulls is really inconsequential when you review what the term BSL means. it stands for breed specific legislation. not pit bull specific legislation. that means now and in the future any and all breeds could fall under the laws laid down for BSL. that is something that should be fought against no matter what breed they are specifically targeting right now. what many people do not realize is that those who are breeding and using pit bulls or any of the other breeds for all the wrong reasons aren't going to give up once the pit bulls have been banned. they will move on to another breed until they find one that can equal what they wanted in their pit bull and then that breed will be the next one on the chopping block. it is already happening overseas. my beloved anatolian shepherds are now being sought after by the same thugs who have had to turn away from the pit bulls because of banning laws. anatolians , by nature, are animal aggressive towards animals outside their home. they are livestock guardians. if animal aggression weren't part of their genetic makeup, they would be virtually ineffective against the wolves and coyotes and bears they protect the livestock and shepherds families from. the anaotlian is now up for the same breed banning in the countries overseas because of what irresponsible owners are doing.
so you see, no matter whether pit bulls are eradicated or not, we will always have a new breed to be exploited and the general public afraid of. until such a time comes when all breeds will be banned, because anything with teeth has the potential to bite.
i am not a pit bull owner. i have no vested interest in the breed. but i do have a vested interest in BSL and the wide spectrum of ramifications it could have for us now and in the future.
so no matter what your feelings are on specific breeds the country wide and now world wide bannings of any breed should be something you should fight against. someday your cuddly cocker spaniel, or friendly labrador/golden retreiver could be next.
I am very sorry for your loss.As a owner of 2 APBT for over 10 years ,it's not the dogs that are bad but stupid owners not taking proper care of their dogs.I don't want to get into a big long speel about this ,this same subject has been beaten to death.
It's in my opinion that pit bulls are NOT for the casual dog owner. Pit bull owners need a "pit bull attitude" and the understanding of what makes them tick. To have a pit bull may take more compromises, sacrifice, and more understanding, but to the true lover of the pit bull, it's worth it. A large percentange of people who have them, lack in everything that is required to be responsible owners. Those are the ones that brings havoc upon the breed and the responsible owners.
And the people who casually own a pit bull just to leave them by themselves in a backyard without interaction, and to deny what they are capable of, is just as guilty as the person that trains them to be vicious.