We just adopted our first dog from the Humane Legue and took her to the vet for a check-up and rabies shot.
The vet allowed us in an examination room (it had only a table), but would not allow us in the treatment room when she was getting her shot andchecked for heartworm. He said this was because of insurance purposes.
Is this a common practice? My wife and I thought it was rather strange.
At our practice we usually would give the shots in the exam room with the owner, but any thing like drawing blood, or getting a stool sample we took them to the back. The animal tends to cooperate better back there and there's better lighting for taking samples. It can be traumatic drawing blood and sometimes too the pet will bite and the owners hands will get in the way. It then becomes a liability to the veterinarian.
When my Beagle was little she had her shots and broke out with hives. I brought her back to the vet and he took her to the back and shaved an area where the hives were. When he gave her back to me he had shaved off the heads of the hives and she was bleeding. I said what the (Bleep) did you do to her? He said he shaved her and hit them by accident. I was so angry with him that I'm told him she's worse off than she was and now I have to antibiotic cream and have her badaged so they won't get infected. I also needed pain medicine. I told hime I'm not paying for your mess up. I never went back to them again. Now when the new vet I have takes my dogs to the back I get real nervous. My Beagle also hates going to the vet now. I have to drag her in.
Yup Ginger, That is the way that it goes at our clinic too. We do vaccines and the rountine check up with the owner present and draw blood and do anything more invasive in the back. Fisrt of all, a lot of people become faint at the sight of blood. Also there is an insurance issues. The clinic is liable even the owner is bit by their own pet (I think that it is a strange rule, but I dont make em, lol). It is true that animals behave better when their people are not around.
The first vet that we took Dalia did everything in the back (regular vaccines and checkup and all) I think that that is counter productive. I like it when the vet examines the animal with the owner present so that they can discuss anything that is found and so that the owner has the opportunity to voice any questions or concerns. If you are not cumfortable with this vet then find another who will do the exam and vaccines with you. I know at our clinic if you ask to be there when they take blood so long as there are no real bahavioral isses, we will oblige, it is not a big deal, just that a lot of people do not like the sight of it, lol. Also, at our clinic if someone has an animal in with an injury to be cleaned or stitches to remove we will do them with the owner present- hmmm, I guess there is a lot of stuff we do in the exam rooms, anal glands too although those are stinky and disgusting and i think that people could stand not to be there, haha.
So after all of that, I guess what i am saying is find a vet that you are cumfortable with and who you trust, there are some places that do everything behind closed doors but I am sure you can find a place that is more open.
My vet has never took one of my dogs to the back except for x-rays or something they couldn't do right there in the exam room. Blood is drawn and they are thoughly checked out right there. I have been to the back where they do the surgery one time when they were changing a dressing on Max's leg and she wanted me to come back while he was unbandaged to show me exactly what the orthopedic doctor had done. I think if I were you I would look into getting another vet.
We will normally do stuff in front of the owner, unless we feel the pet is acting up because of the owner, or the owner doesn't want to be present.Sometimes its easier on the animal if they go into the bvack and get some Vet Asst's help. To do so everytime isn't necessary.
Well my vet does almost everything in the exam room. The exception being surgery (obviously) and a few other procedures. She's a great vet. When we were treating Rama for cancer, I was allowed to sit with her during her chemo. I wouldn't return to a vet if I wasn't allowed to stay with my girls. Where they go, I go. I even stood outside the surgery window while they were spayed.
Maybe this sounds crazy but I dont let my guys out of my sight during exams...the only time they are not with me is if they have to have xrays or surgery....I want to see how they are being treated and how they are reacting...its not for a lack of trust of my vet..i guess its being a crazy mom
I have a great vet. I stay in the room for everything except the surgery. Doesn't matter what it is, fecal, shots, etc, I am in the room. I have never even thought about what you are asking, but I guess I would if my vet didn't let me stay in the room. It's like my daughter, when she goes to the Dr. I am in the room with her. My pets are also my kids.
just what the heck do you guys think we are doing to your pets ? my god if you dont have trust enough in your vet or their staff to allow your animal out of your site while we do our job then maybe you should find another vet.
I trust my vets, I trust what they do. What do you think the vets are doing to your pets? If you don't trust them, why not get a different vet? Shadow has gotten countless x-rays, and other stuff for her leg, not to mention blood drawlen. Same with my uncle's kitten that got blood drawlen.
Seriously, what horrible things would your vet do?
***Edited By: ShadowDog on 8/19/2005 8:38:37 PM*** Reason: add
Thank you scout. I've been wanting to reply just didn't know what to say. It's a hard thing to explain to people. Especially when you do have to use restraint...which we are trained to do without hurting the animal...in fact sometimes less restraint is more effective. But there are times when you have to get done what needs to be done and frankly at times the owners get in the way. For example, at the first clinic I worked for we did everything in the exam room. One lady brought her cat in. We ended up drawing blood on the cat. Now, the vet I worked for liked to draw blood from the cat's hind leg. In order to do that you have to scruff the cat with one hand, which doesn't hurt it, turn it on its side, hold the top leg up and hold off the vein with the other hand. And drawing blood takes concentration. Now as we are doing this the lady starts freaking out and pushing my hands off of the cat telling me that I'm choking him (which I wasn't). In the mean time the doctor is getting flustered and loosing his concentration and as a result has to stick the cat more than once. Finally one of the other techs says, doc why don't ginger and I take the cat to the back and do it real quick. 5 minutes later we are back. Had no problem at all. Just a matter of the owner freaking out about what was being done. I don't see it as a huge deal if the vet wants to take them to the back to do a procedure (especially anal gland expression...yuk...i like to do it over a wet table so i can immediately wash the dogs rear). But, if you're not comfortable with it then most vets are willing to oblidge and stay in the exam room to do the procedure. But, I wouldn't acuse the vets of doing something behind your back just because they take them to the back. They're only trying to get the job done efficiently and with as little stress to the animal as possible. And believe it or not, cooing and ooing and awwing over the pet only reinforces the animal's fear. Most of the dogs don't mind going to the back with us and even get a cookie if they're good. And extra loving by the rest of the staff. When we bring puppies to the back to get a stool sample the puppy usually gets passed around and showered with kisses. :)
My decision to stay with my dog through all procedures is a personal choice and not meant to be offensive. I have twice overted crisis by my being there. I had two different assistants, in two different vet offices attemp to tackle and hold my dog to the ground to simply draw blood! In neither instance was this even close to necessary! My dog was always a perfect gentleman for all procedures. I cant imagine what would have happened in either circumstance if I hadn't been there. I think they were just assuming that he was going to be trouble because of his breed.(Akita) Needless to say I never brought my dog back to either of those offices and never would. I would much rather handle my own dogs then hand them over to a stranger, I don't care how qualified. I, of course know my own dog the best.
Now as we are doing this the lady starts freaking out and pushing my hands off of the cat telling me that I'm choking him (which I wasn't). In the mean time the doctor is getting flustered and loosing his concentration and as a result has to stick the cat more than once. Finally one of the other techs says, doc why don't ginger and I take the cat to the back and do it real quick. 5 minutes later we are back. Had no problem at all. Just a matter of the owner freaking out about what was being done.
This is a true story. Many of you have heard me talk about a dog I kind of 'coowned' with an old roommate, Ashir, a chow/lab mix. When we got Ashir at 8 weeks old, we took him to have his vaccinations at one of hte local vets offices. They took him in the back, and brought him back about 15 minutes later and said hed recieved his shots and blah blah blah. About 2 or 3 weeks later, he came down wth parvovirus. He nearly died.
About 6 months after that, the veterinarian at that office was brought up on charges that when they were taking puppies inot the back to 'give them shots' and such, the dogs weren't actually being treated or vaccinated at all. He was fined and suspended.
Now that said, I DO trust my own vet and I know he does what he says when he takes the dog into the back.. 99% of the time I go with him (I went to prevet at Auburn Univ with my veterinarian). The techs in his office know me and my dogs by name, and they adore my 4 year old child.
However, it's a sad fact that some people.. even veterinarians.. aren't honest.
Scout…. Maybe it ( for some of us) has nothing to do with trust for the Vet or the Staff… maybe it has to do with …. We love our pets and WE know them better than anyone else ever could… and being there …with them helps them stay calm and not feel as if they have done something wrong and/ or helps them Not be so frightened.
My Vet wants me there… he likes me to help and be hands ON… after all they are MY furkids.. and I care for them….
I have total trust for my VET... I even drive further away because he moved to another office...