Oh, regarding the microchip reader...I don't have one but my vet does and so no...none of my rescues had been microchipped. There were a few that I found and had tags on and I was able to track down the owner. There was actually one that I had to return TWICE because according to the owner, kept "running away".
can some one post her web site...id like to look..thanks
also..i think most rescues have really strict policies..i dont think that is any reason..i think most are too strict..but in many cases it is needed..so..for me..thats not the reason..
in my county they have ac.,.and the dogs are swept away before they are up for adoption to the public..our policy is 4 days..i can see after that to go to rescues..as a last chance..but here..they get called first..an then they are sold/adopted out for 300 to 500 depending..and then they are soliciting donations..and they get better prices at the vet then i do..so..not all dogs taken in need all things..i understand that..so..what you spend on one..you save on another..it should be a wash..but...it is a choice she chose to make..if you dont want to do all these things..then your doing this for all the wrong reasons..i have smelled gangreen...had people call at 10 pm..and tell me if i dont come get the damn dog they will...kill it, drop it off on the road, all kinds of things...and i have jumped to the tune ...but.,,,thats just me..
Oh and this one is even better. Troy her beloved poodle that she bought from a breeder back in 2004 is now listed on dogster as a rescue that some owner turned over to her for not having enough time to spend with the dog.
She's not making ANY money off of these adoptions. I'm hoping to adopt one of the puppies that she will have for adoption soon. The mother (Pepper) has been with her for at least a month and she's going to not only whelp the puppies but keep them until they are 4mos old and spayed/neutered. How is she making a dime off of pups that she's keeping for so long. I don't know about you guys, but here in California where Alldogslover and myself are located at, vet care is extremely expensive. The neuter/spay alone could be close or well over her adoption fee of $200. She's new to rescuing, give her advice and show her the error of her ways, but don't bash someone with a good heart who's trying to accomplish good.
Alldogslover, I agree with debg you keep your head up and don't let the rude comments of others stop your mission. Honestly, I wouldn't have approached a dog I was unsure about either. You never know what could happen to you if the dog does snap. I have called the local rescue shelter a couple of times when I saw strays on the beach. I tried to follow the dogs to keep an eye of them, but I lost them both times. I think people missed the fact that you said you were on your way to work. I know how I am in the mornings on my way to work, it was probably an oversight that you didn't think to call. Who can say they are "PERFECT" 100% of the time. People always want to discredit a good deed. You keep it up. Your vet can check for a microchip and I think if you post flyers for two weeks, that's more then enough time for the original owner to claim their dog.
Listen, you seem a little overwhelmed right now. Since I'm going to be moving to LA county this summer anyway perhaps I could become one of your volunteers? I can't help you out financially in the form of donations, but in the evenings and during the weekend I will be able to donate my time. At least eight to ten hours a week for walks, baths, etc. etc. I usually volunteer for a local homeless organization, but it's only located in Orange County so I was going to look for a new charity once I moved anyway. It's just a thought. Otherwise I'll probably go to a local shelter once I get settled in.
***Edited By: Blackqueen8 on 5/8/2006 11:36:50 PM*** Reason: .
Since I was interested in adopting Sophie from alldogslover, I was keeping up with all the dogs listed on dogster under her. She did a one point list that she was putting up her own dog for adoption since the rescue had taken up so much of her time that didn't feel she could be an owner to him at that time. I don't know when she changed the it to what it currently says, but I do remember reading that at least a month ago.
BTW, my last post was not meant to bash you. I do enjoy your post and and highly respect your advice. I know you do a lot for animals as well, I just think like any new task it's going to take the OP a moment to fine tune her organization and her process. It's a big responsiblity she's taken on and she uses this site and the knowledge of people like you to verify that she's doing the right thing. If not she does change her ways.
Hmm thats strange someone is now running a rescue. And because they are now running a rescue they are now adopting out their own animals because of rescueing. Maybe its just me but that kinda seems strange to me.
Do you have a picture of the dog? Hope you can sleep, knowing that you left one poor dog out there all alone. I know you think you are doing what you can, but you can do more! Why would you leave the other dog? What state do you live in? I can't believe you just left that other dog there. I'm sorry if I sound as if I am bashing you, it is wonderful that you saved a life. What is the law of keeping a stray dog where you live? All I know is that here, in Texas, you must actively look for the dog's home or take it to the shelter, then you may adopt it out or keep it. Shelters always have dogs on hold that were brought in as strays, so the owners can have a chance to look for their dog. Do you have a microchip reader? Did you ever try to call the other dog over? Personally, if I ever see a stray dog, I make sure to take it in, friendly or not. I've been bitten by a stray before, but I managed to get him in, and to the shelter. How long do you keep dogs before adopting them out? It is good that you helped the dog out though. I have no problem taking in dogs that aren't friendly looking. I don't ever leave dogs running around. If they have a collar, I take them to where they live. If they have a chip, I do have a chip reader, I enter it into the computer and call the owner, if they have a tattoo, I'll also find that through the computer and call the owner. If they have nothing, I take them to the pound. By the way, animal control doesn't steal dogs! I'm trying to be nice and polite, please let me know if you feel anything I said was wrong or impolite. If you do, I appologize.
can you explain the situation with troy ? i am very confused about the two different sotries on him.
Arrival Story: Troy's owner surrendered him because she was working long hours and had no time for him.
that is from your dogster page and the next one is from a thread last year on this board.
I bought Troy from that breeder back in December and I never researched her before buying him because I was very emotionally distressed over the death of my previous poodle.
i think it is great that people want to rescue animals and give them second chances to find more loving and permanent homes then they had previously. i think you can get a lot of help on here but for more specifics on how to get recognized, what the laws are, etc. you may hve the best of luck going to http://www.petfinder.org and asking specific rescue details there.
i can tell you they are a much harsher group then any of us here can be. but no one anywhere likes people who are not truthful about things. everyone on this board is more then willing to help anyone who comes here asking questions. however it does noothing but make people angry when someone others have grown to like over time, turns out to be not so honest.
***Edited By: scout1 on 5/9/2006 7:39:41 AM*** Reason: x
I'm really not sure what to think of this whole situation. I know I could never put my own dogs up for adoption if I also had rescues in my home. (which, btw, we may be fostering 2 Australian Cattle Dog sisters, so I may be asking some questions) I would definitely turn the rescues over to a shelter or breed rescue if it came to the point that I wasn't able to give everyone the attention that they needed. If you are going to give Troy away since you don't have enough time, Alldogs, maybe you should rethink the whole rescue thing until you have more info and expereince? Maybe just foster through the local rescue/shelter and let them do all the paperwork, etc. Do you have anyone else helping you? It seems like a monumental task to take on yourself.
In defense of alldogs, she isnt just scooping them up and getting 200 bucks for em. She is feeding them, grooming them and even training them.
I know someone here made the comment about cute little dogs running loose she finds and I can tell you in MY county (and I work for my county as well) we have cute little dogs in the pound every week. 50% or MORE are purebreds. Dobies, gsd, poodles, springers, bostons, jack russells, beagles, bassets, coondogs....
I have seen in my neighborhood, just last week, a red min pin, a shiba inu and a chow mix IN MY YARD. A lasa apso walks the 'hood here too.
I can also tell you, that we have ONE dog warden for the county. My city doesnt have animal control at all. So, far more animals roam the streets in our county then get picked up.
I take calls EVERY shift for animals that are running loose. Some cute, some not. Some hit by cars that are still alive. Some are mean or feral as well.
I am saying that if you all look hard enough, you would see what is out there in your neighborhoods, perhaps.
Also? would NOT endanger MYSELF to get a dog that may bite me.
Then what? It takes off , and you bought yourself a round of rabies shots? no thanks....
Looking at the bigger picture here....alldogs pets are in a home and advertised to be adopted out. To me, that beats being here on death row where they gas the dogs every mon, wed, and frid.
you know..I dont care if she makes her first million doing this "rescue" deal..I think she needs to be honest..and first off..learn the laws in her State and county...then get all the necessary info to cross cowardinate with other rescues and shelter as people who lose a dog will first call or go to pounds and shelter to see if they are there. Perhaps a fax machine is needed also..Then she needs a policy of lost and found in the paper..all areas even remotey close..lost and founds are free..so far..not a lot of cost involved..She needs to invest in her own clippers.mine cost like 130.00 to cut matts from hair..but..even going to a groomer..we found some who didnt charge our fledging rescue/humane society any where near the cost i go in and pay with my pooches now..then the vets..like i said..find one who will work with you...and they will..and get discounted prices..give your own distemper/parvo shots...cost 5 bucks and spays and neuters can and should be done with the low cost deals the shelters offer...if you dont then your nuts..next..bringing coodlies home to the rest of your bunch...you need a quarenteen area...for all things..even seperate lawns to go poop in..I have had my family dogs catch things in years past and finally I realised who was it more humane to...the stray or my own pet...who i got first and vowed to keep? Even worms or fleas have cost me several hundreds..and the possabilities are really scarry ( mange is hard to treat i hear..as is ring worm..both not a big deal...but get all your animals with it and see how the numbers climb at the vet)
so...this is only my opinion..I think rescueing and fostering are wonderful things..but..there is more to it then just seeking them out..and turning them back into main stream society..I would be willing to bet she doesnt put very much in actuality into these dogs..because you can not put a figure on time..Try spending hours with a scalded dog..tending to wounds and seeking emergency vets at 10 pm because some one demanded you remove a dog whom they tried to castrate with rubber bands and the poor thing is reaking with gangreen and infection..who they obviously looked at for weeks and all of a sudden as it is dying they want it out right then and there..these are not cute..fuzzy small dogs..easy to place dogs..these are the average...abused, neglected dogs our society has always turned its head at and seems rescues do so to. I have a sour taste for most rescues after i called one and they told me to put a shepherd down with a skidish temperment..I contacted every rescue on petfinder..and only 2 called..and 1 emailed..and not one offered to help..so much for rescuing..but..even with that said..I am not jusdging this girl on that..just the fact things dont add up..if you want to talk the talk..please walk the walk..and yes..I guess I have been burnt out on rescuing over time..you would too if you have seen what I have seen..but..I still do it or rare occasions..but never would i compromise or get rid of my dogs to say i am helping the canines of the world..thats just doesnt make since..not to me any way..so..everyone believe what you will..even keeping a pup for 4 months doesnt cost as much as you think..if done right..there is even money to be made..which as I said..I have no issue with..i just stand by my original post that that is not the way to do rescue work to me..
also...I hope you keep an on going file of these dogs..with before and after pics and a full write up on where they have gone..in case some lost dog owner does find you and decided to sue you..it happened in my county..a lady was traping cats..and spaying the ferel and selling the nice adoptable ones..this lady no longer does this work..i guess she learned her lession...