They did a documentry(sp) on designer mutts in 2003. It was on again yesterday. I only caught the very end. If I remember right from watching it the first time they talked a lot about the new breeds they are developing for flyball. Anyway at the very end that I caught yesterday they asked something in the affect of what will the roles of dogs play in the future. They will only be limited by our imagination. As they were saying this the back ground had two purebred dogs over laping each other to show what the posibale(sp) out comes would look like. So with shows like that, it is just promoting and incouraging designer mutts. Most of them did have a purpose of being breed they are trying to find faster dogs for flyball.
Please keep this in mind when buying a "DESIGNER MUTT". 1. Designer Mutts that are bred correctly are from a purebred sire from one breed and a purebred dam from another breed. They should have papers showing this. 2. The correct sire and dam must be chosen. You certainly would not breed a big male to a small female for one thing. Many things a good breeder will take into consideration as he wants to please the family that gets his pup, if for no other reason, it is the best advertising and he doesn't want to hear them complain. 3. Designer mutts will never breed true so they should certainly be nutered. 4. Designer Mutts are usually rare and unique, your neighbor is not likely to have one like it. 5. Being hybrid, or from two different breeds they will have no inbreeding defects and are usually much healthier than the adverage purebred dog. 6. Hybrids usually get the best of both breeds, for example look at most pigs, beef cattle, corn, roses, tomatoes. Most of the best ones are hybrid. 7. Hybrids, or Designer Mutts seem to be what most people want for their pet and it is easy to see why.
Comoncents, I think you have a very idealized idea of what is happening when people breed designer mutts. First off, you can't compare breeding dogs with breeding farm and feed animals. That's because more care is chosen in breeding farm animals sadly enough. When people first started breeding cattle that were 3/8 brahman and 5/8 shorthorn hereford (which is now officially known as the Santa Gertrudis) they were trying to achieve a real purpose, a type of cattle that would thrive on Texas shortgrass, have small calves, produce more milk (which means the calves are bigger when weaned) etc. They serve a purpose and were bred as hybrids to increase profitability by increasing the feed/gain ratio in a particular environment. In the designer mutt industry (and it is an industry), there's is very little thought beyond "This dog is a purebred poodle and that's a purebred schnauzer, let's breed them, call them schnoodles and sellt hem for thousands!!!" The only exception to that is the labradoodle, which was bred to be a service dog to blind people with allergy problems. You say that designer mutts are healthier? That's totally uninformed. Many dogs that are being bred together as designer mutts carry the exact same hereditary defects. Them being different breeds does nothing to dilute or prevent these health problems from coming up. If you breed a poodle (which is a breed that is prone to retinal atrophy and hip dysplasia) to a schnauzer (which is also prone the same disorders) or a lab (ditto), them being of different breeds is not a miracle panacaea that will prevent either of these disorders from occuring. It will be just as likely to occur in their puppies as it would any purebred dogs. The sad fact is, many people on this forum LOVE mutts, which you seem to dislike, except for designer mutts, which really looks like a double standard. Our problem is that it is an extremely rare designer mutt breeder that breeds responsibly, doing health testing and getting certifications from OFA and CERF and doing stuff beyond 'vet checked', which is largely worthless in the long run. They don't test for genetic diseases in their breeding dogs, so they have no right to claim their dogs are more healthy than purebred dogs. Most breed, as I said earlier, because they want to make a quick buck. All that is required is that both the sire and dam be purebred dogs. Nothing else. No care is chosen in picking out the sire and dam. A few dumb ones breed for reasons as stupid as 'I want a maltese sized dog with shih tzu coloring'. We've seen idiots come onto this site with dogs that already carry genetic defects like cryptorchidism wanting to breed their purebred poodle to a purebred cocker to get cockapoos despite the problems already present. It's ridiculous.
I would love to know why a designer mutt is so much better than my pit bull mix, ooh wow, I got him from the shelter because he came from an abusive home, and guess what, I only paid $50.00 for him, already neutered, had vaccinations up to date, and was already housebroken. Sure he had a lot to work on, but that is because he was abused for the first 5 1/2 years of his life. My parent's could not expect a better dog then their greyhound/lab? mix, but the other day, at petsmart, somone with a schoodle called Ollie "what an UGLY mutt" and their dog wasn't a mutt? WTF. When I have said my dog is a pit bull mix, somone with a yorkiepoo acted like they could not believe that I would rescue a "mutt" from a humane society. What puts those mutts above mine? Puggle, yorkiepoo, schnoodle, prokie, weimardoodle, they are all JUST MUTTS!!!!! (sorry about the yelling). They are not any better than my dog. Coco has been through a lot more in his life than any of those dogs or thier horrible owners could ever imagine. Ollie was surrendered because is greedy owners decided that haveing an 11 month old puppy would be a burden over the holidays. He was well behaved, well trained, and a little nervous when they adopted him, nervousness being because he had no idea what was going to happen to him at this new home. I'll bet that family will get another puppy, then surrender it again right before thanksgiving, it is sick. I know a few dogs are surrendered for ligitmate (sp?) reasons. Like the few that were surrendured because their owners were in the military were deployed and didn't have a place to put their dogs. It is sad. How is a "desiner mutt" better than my mutt? My mutt is better behaved than most of the designer mutts, he just came from the shleter and was abuse. Does that make other mutts better than him. Maybe whatever he was was a planned breeding, maybe Ollie was a planned breeding. Honestly, what makes one MUTT better than another MUTT, they ALL came from irresponsible breeders.
Personally, I like the idea of having a mix rather than a purebred. I saw shih tzu poodles advertised and liked the idea as poodles are much smarter than shih tzus. I didn't want a purebred poodle as I don't like the look. I would also consider a shih tzu/japanese chin. Why, because I like both breeds and think a mix would be nice. I could go on and on about mixes I would consider. I think its a personal choice. I wouln't buy from a pet store as I don't like puppy mills and I would be concerned about housebreaking a pup that has learned to eliminate from a crate/ I would only buy any dog if I could see the parents. To me, that is the best predictor of my pups future health and personality. Also, I wouldnt pay top dollar for a mix unless it came from a breeder who did necessary testing ect. Otherwise, I would only pay a few hundred dollars. Why, because if I like the mix, that price is worth it to me. My little shih tzu mix is the sweetest most loving dog and worth every penny. And, I lucked out as he doesnt need to be groomed (although that probably means his father is not a poodle after all!) All in all, when I like several different breeds and can't decide--a mix of the breeds solves the problem!
Thats another reason why designer poodle mutts are so popular. People don't like the idea of having a poodle because of the tradition poodle cut looks and the snobby stereotype image along with them. I have look at many pics of poodle mixes and almost all of them looks the same to the poodles without the shaved face.
'I would love to know why a designer mutt is so much better than my pit bull mix, ooh wow," luvapit- i haven't heard anyone say that their designer mutt is any better than your dog. In fact, I dont think any dog is better than another, mutt or purebred. Most people who come on here introducing themselves as the owner of a 'schnoodle' or 'puggle' just want to talk to other dog owners, not to be judged by the kind of dog they own. Yes, the world is overpopulated with dogs and I am sorry but it is never going to go away...not when people are making thousands of dollars by mixing dogs. sickening, yes, but that's the way it is.
yes some people who come on this site who already have one of these dogs just want to talk to other pet owners as we all have a love for all dogs. its the wanted posts for these designer breeds that people try and educate before someone goes and pays big bucks for a mutt. no one mixed breed is better than someone elses nixed breed. maybe some hoity toity person who got a "designer " mutt might think so but ti is just their stupidity, that led them to their purchase in the first place, acting out. people seem to be so judgemental about poodles yet they will pay for a poodle mix. doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. if you don't like a poodle what makes a poodle mix any better?
Designer mutts are usually pretty neat or people wouldn't purpously breed them. Chances of starting a new breed with them is slim to none. Someone was talking about the Santa Gertrudis. When they were first starting the breed they finally found a bull that would breed "true" and it was said he was one in a million, his name was Monkey I believe. I would think your chances of starting a new breed with a designer mutt is about 1 in a million. Probably all hybrids should be nutered. Why is it so many people come on here calling other people idiots and dummies, is it so they will feel smarter? Some of the new designer mutts I have been hearing about are the Pug/Beagle, Shar Pei/Bassett, Yorkie/Miniature Schnauzer, Lhasa Apso/American Eskimo, Boston Terrier/Beagle (they say it looks like a miniature Pit Bull but acts like a pussy cat) Miniature Pincher/Pekingese (they look like a Miniature Rotweiler), Papillion/Bichon.
It all started with one designer mutt, now all kinds of people are breeding two different breeds to make a so called "new" breed. People need to stop and think about what they are doing to the original breed. Yes, all recognized dog breeds just didn't start with 1 breed but it took many, many years to produce the fine breed these dogs are today. What irks me the most is that people are breeding mini rottweilers now. There is no such thing as a mini rottweiler. These breeders aren't even using a rottweiler in the breeding. Thank God because they would be ruining a great breed as well as causing huge problems. Its bad enough that people let their dogs roam the neighborhood and get pregnant by the neighborhood dog and then we have all of these poor mixed puppies at shelters. I'm sorry but I will never stand behind a designer mutt breeder who thinks up "new" breeds to sell at high prices. I can hear them now "oh honey, we already bred schnoodles, how bout we breed a mastiff and a chihuahua, call it a chima and charge $1500".
I hope, and am pretty sure, when people buy a Min Pin/Pekingese cross they are buying a Miniature Rotweiler look alike. They have absolutely no Rotweiler in them. Same goes for the Pug/Rat Terrier cross, it looks like a Miniature Boxer but has absolutely no Boxer blood in it. Same goes for the Puggle or cross between the Pug/Beagle, they look like a Miniature Mastiff but everyone knows they have no Mastiff in them what so ever. All these dogs stay small, maybe 15-20 lbs and are only bred for family pets. They are not bred to raise pups and reproduce as the pups would not be uniform. I'm sure when people pay this big money for them they know what they are getting. The problem with getting a cross bred puppy from an accidental breeding is the people may think they are getting a yorkie/poo and when it grows up they find out the daddy wasn't a yorkie but a german shepherd that jumped the fence and got with the poodle.
Wow, I just saw a different Designet Mutt. It was a cross between a Shar Pai and a bassett. The pups were very young but cute. Their face is so wrinkled they can hardly open their eyes. What should they be called? Some of them are black and tan and others are tan. They have big pretty ears and are sorta bow legged. Someone will have a unique pet with them. Very anxious to see them when they get a little bigger.
I agree with Lanysid. I picked out a cockapoo because of allergy issues, wanted a sturdier dog than a poodle for playing with the kids, and because they are typically gentle, loving dogs. I really don't understand some of the people on this forum. To me, this is a great place to help each other with problems, share great stories about our dogs, etc. Instead, certain opinionated know-it-alls (you know who you are!) feel the need to constantly criticize other people for the type of dog they own, the amount they paid, etc. What business is that of theirs. If a person loves their pet, who cares???
What the heck is a peekapoo? is that some kind of pokemon muahaha. I dont know what these people are thinking breeding these dogs and selling them for that much. As some of you may already know i volunteer at an animal shelter....i dont see why some people think paying a load a cash for a mixed breed is stupid. There are so many great dogs at the shelters that are mixed oooooh i said mixed. yes its true mixed breeds CAN make great pets for you skeptics out there. My pup is a mixed breed and i got him from a friend whos father was going to just throw the dogs away like they were trash or something. It was not a meant breeding...their dog made it with a stray for that matter. But he is the greatest happiest pup out there and i dont care what any of these people say who want to pay thousands of dollars for basically the same thing. My dog is my friend...my buddy...my companion and it wouldnt matter if he was a purebred watever or a dirty ol mutt...there is absolutely nothing wrong with mutts! purebred or mutt....they will love you for life and thats all that should matter. We just think about how many dogs are stuck in little kennels waiting for someone to come by and take them home. hmm just think you can get a friend there for far less than buying a mixed peekadoodleschnoodlecadoodle watever dem breeds are called! Must save animal population....not add to it! mmmwwwwwwaaaaaaah love ya all thanks for listening to my madness -Kelly
Okay, maybe you don't think it's my business to care what breed or mutt you own, but it is my business that there are a ton, actually millions of poor animals in shelters dying-- a lot them which are those breeds which people buy, and those people get defensive before understainding their points. And the bigger concern is those now starting to breed or buy mutts, not current owners. Allie- *Mommy please, just one???!* LOL *xoxo, FrostyGirl* Thinking of breeding? Go to: http://justonelitter.com/litter.html
Frosty Girl, I can understand if you are criticizing "designer mutts" strictly because you are concerned about all of the animals in shelters. But, you don't seem to complain about people who by purebreds from a breeder. What is the difference from the standpoint of the animals in shelters. If people buy from a breeder, rather than adopting from a shelter, does it matter whether that breeder breeds purebreds or mixes? Either way, when a person buys from a breeder, they are choosing not to adopt from the shelter instead.
Allie, I have to ask you, when you said you would like to "Spit staples" at your friend for buying a peekapoo, why do you feel that way. The only legitimate reason I can think of for you to be upset when your friend bought this dog is if you wish they would have saved a dog from a shelter instead. But how can YOU be upset about that when you said in earlier posts, that YOU bought from a breeder, and paid $500.00 for your dog? Why is your friend any different from you? Is it just that you hate mixed breeds?