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Posted: 1:56:50 PM 12/18/2006
You better have a credit card or some emergency cash handy-chis seem to be one of the breeds that often need c sections.
Posted: 2:02:31 PM 12/18/2006
Fix the dogs, and learn from this mistake.

Rescued dogs should be fixed anyhow. Pet store puppies shouldn't be bought. Neither one of them should be bred.
Now you know, and hopefully you take that information to heart, it's not just because we say so. It's best for the dogs and the people who would want the puppies.
Posted: 2:12:30 PM 12/18/2006
I'm sorry but you will be unable to register your dogs, or their puppies with the AKC (and with any reputable registry, for that matter).

YOu say you don't have a lot of money... you better be saving up, because depending on where you live, this dog may end up costing you more than a thousand dollars if she requires a C-section, as many chihuahuas do.

I find myself disturbed by the fact that as you say,

"I've found out that I live close to a vet, and he has volunteered to help when she is giving birth, but that is the extent of his help."

Do you not have a regular veterinarian for your dogs that you can consult?

Is the male larger than the female? How much larger? The larger he is in comparison to her, the more likely she is to have whelping problems. You need to get in touch wiht your vet and tell them that you may need an emergency c-section for the dog, ask how much it is and start saving. Because if your dog needs a c-section and you can't afford it, or the vet wont care for her becaus eyou dont' have the money, your female WILL die. And so will her puppies.

Do you havea ny idea when she's due? If you know when she was bred, you will know round about when she is due.
Posted: 2:14:47 PM 12/18/2006
So there is no way to get full papers on a dog that does not have them?

What if by chance someone was driving down the road and found a perfect chi, I mean perfect as in no other chi would win a show if this chi was in it. There is still no way AKC would let you regester it? I know thats a total long shot but I think that even a dog with out papers that can prove its self should be able to have papers.

Your dogs are cute.
Posted: 2:18:54 PM 12/18/2006
If the chi were so perfect it most likely belongs to someone.

but no, the AKC will NOT accept for full registry any dog with an unknown background.
Posted: 2:23:38 PM 12/18/2006
I guess thats a good thing concerding people could abuse it.

Posted: 3:36:28 PM 12/18/2006
You dont have money to do the BASIC veterinary care for them.. (spay/neuter) but you think you can afford breeding? What happens when mama can't deliver them naturally and you need a c-section at 3am which will cost you $1500+
How about vaccines for the puppies? Food? Health checks for mama? The mama is going eat three times as much food as before.

Get her spayed and save yourself some money and save some dogs from being PTS in a shelter.
Posted: 3:51:28 PM 12/18/2006
RBM "I didn't get them fixed because of a lack of money"
RBM "My husband didn't know that my female was in heat......It's his fault"

Talk about rationalizing away your "problems".

First of all you can't register your new puppies.
Secondly, you can't afford to have 2 dogs even if they were spayed/neutered with what you have told us.

I know, I know, I know......I'm mean, I'm cold, I'm heartless, if you think of any adjectives, please let me know....

But, its about time you think of the health and welfare of the 2 dogs you have, the future puppies you may have and what is best for them and not for YOU.
Posted: 5:00:17 PM 12/18/2006
RBM, what are you planning on doing with the puppies after they're born?
Posted: 5:11:09 PM 12/18/2006
The vet said he will be prepared for a c-section when she gives birth.

Someone asked about the size of the male, he's smaller than the female.

I AM getting them fixed when my husband gets his income taxes, so will you get off my back about that please.

And now that I know the answer to the question that I asked, this should end soon i hope.


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"Hindsight is 20/20"
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I plan to keep them, I mentioned that my female is pregnant to my neighbor and she said she wanted one after they are born so, I was thinking of letter her have one, sence they are so close, and I was thinking of "maybe" letting my grandmother have one sence she lives with my parents I know it would be taken care of there.(she fell and broke her hip and can't get around like she used to, so she likes to have a little dog because it's easier for her.)

I had left my female with her for a while to keep her company when my parents work and all that, but I had to get her back when my brother got a big pit bull. I was scared it'd hurt her because it's so BIG!!

***Edited By: RBM on 12/18/2006 5:15:05 PM***
Reason: ADD
Posted: 8:29:16 PM 12/18/2006
Start saving now. It would have been a lot less expensive to have your dogs fixed than it will be to do a C-section, and with a small breed like yours, you're best bet is to expect that she will need one.

This thread is one of those threads that's a perfect example of a right way to communicate and a wrong way. Suggesting that someone is stupid right off the bat isn't going to teach, help or get a positive message out, so let's just take a deep breath, the damage has been done but there's a good opportunity to inform the OP, and it's best to do that civilly than ...evilly.

:)
Posted: 8:51:31 PM 12/18/2006
I didn't "breed" them. I was at school and my husband didn't know that my female was in heat and didn't keep the two of them separated and they hooked up.
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I plan on getting them fixed when my husband got his income taxes.
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I got the female from my parents when I graduated high school last year, and the the male was given to me about 3 months ago


Then they go on to say: I plan to keep them, I mentioned that my female is pregnant to my neighbor




Gee, cant seem to get their story straight! Ok, done wasting my time. Sure sign of being caught in your own lies is to get defensive and start crying 'your being mean'

Good luck with your litter, hope they all make their way into this world healthy.

















***Edited By: lpn169 on 12/18/2006 9:01:11 PM***
Reason: dbl quoted
Posted: 8:57:43 PM 12/18/2006
If by any chance that dog has trouble whelping (how old is she anyways) you are going to be in for a nasty little surprise when your vet bill SKYROCKETS... could go as high as 3000$ mine did last year...
Posted: 12:54:42 AM 12/19/2006
Sorry to bump this again....but, I was looking for another thread and came across this one.

Here this person says they didnt fix the dogs because they WANTED to breed her ! Not because they couldnt afford it. OK, another display that they cant keep their story straight.

http://www.terrificpets.com/forum/39759.asp

Ok, now I'm done...couldnt resist when I came across it.
Posted: 12:59:25 AM 12/19/2006
oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to decieve..................
Posted: 1:11:12 AM 12/19/2006
Wandering Spirit: where on earth did you get the idea that dogs could ONLY be registered AKC if they are neutered???? first of all if they are showing - they may NOT be neutered. I can't imagine what you even mean with this one.


Isn't the bitch in question here only 8 months old?

If you can't afford to properly care for these dogs then you shouldn't have them. blame it on your husband if you like but you are just as much at fault for not having at least the female done.

Since money is such a problem, what are you going to do if she needs a C-section?
Posted: 1:21:29 AM 12/19/2006
suebgone....I am only guessing and dont want to speak for wandering. But i think the point was...the female came from a pet shop and no papers. The male was a rescue...no papers. They wanted to register the pups they made with AKC....I think that is why she said only if nuetered etc. They have no background or registration, so AKC wont except them for registry, unless its an ILP number, in which they have to be fixed to get.
Posted: 7:24:07 AM 12/19/2006
Thank you LPN, you hit the nail on the head....


Sue... I have several American Kennel Club champions... I know what I'm talking about.
Posted: 8:57:25 AM 12/19/2006
Sue, I think Wandering meant if you want to register your dog, whose parents have not been registered or you just don't havepapers for, your dog has to be altered with a microchip in order to be registered and you'd get limited anyway.
Posted: 10:22:29 AM 12/19/2006
Exactly!

You can register the parents with The Indefinite Listing Privileges but you can't register the puppies.



Here is a Quote from the AKC explaining ILP...

ILP is designed to allow dogs to participate in AKC Companion and Performance Events. The AKC Events that an ILP dog can participate in are:
Agility Trials (All Breeds)
Earthdog Trials (Small Terriers and Dachshunds)
Herding Tests and Trials ( Herding Breeds, Rottweilers and Samoyeds)
Hunt Tests (Most Sporting Breeds and Standard Poodles)
Junior Showmanship (All Breeds)
Lure Coursing (Sighthounds)
Obedience Trials (All Breeds)
Rally Trials (All Breeds)
Tracking Tests (All Breeds)
Once enrolled in the ILP program, entering AKC events is as easy as with a registrable dog. The only difference is that instead of an AKC registration number, you would list the dog's ILP number on the Entry form.
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